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Got my Kicker Keyloc DSP Sunday and installed it yesterday. Got a lot of feedback from forum members on what DSP to run and ultimately went with this one because I have a PSU300acd already installed. Because of that (you will see from the pictures) The wiring to add this to my system was very very simple. The PSU has several connection options that comes included. One is an RCA out connection option for aftermarket amps. So all I really had to do was connect the Kicker wires to some female RCA and clip in the included male attachment from Alpine. Ran a 1.5ft cable from dsp to the sub, which was perfect. I wanted it under the seat but there is not enough room so I put it in the center console. Ran an add a fuse to #45 spot for power (its only a 2amp fuse) I did not have time to set it up yesterday just got it installed. I also forgot until writing this, that I need to switch the breaker to RCA on the PSU as well, but thats ok because as you can see from the pics, the RCA is very close to the frame rail of the seat. If i put the plastic cover on, the clip is actually right above the L (white) RCA and pushes it down a little. I ordered some 90deg RCA connectors from Amazon that will be here today to fix that. It will also give me a little more slack in that RCA cable ( it fits perfect but there is basically no slack. I will update with the dsp setup later today.
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was there noticeable improvements with sound quality?
I meant to update here last night but was exhausted. Short answer yes it sounds better, but im not done tuning it yet. Been tweaking it since Tuesday and something still seemed off to me. Going online I confirmed the written instructions for the auto dsp setup are not only poorly written, but incomplete. It actually skips an entire two steps that are needed. I watched the video online from Kicker shows you the proper way to set it up so will do that later this afternoon.
 

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Its sounds amazing now, especially considering I only have 5 speakers including the sub. The soundstage actually sounds like its coming from the center of the car. The difference in bass is significant. Not just in how hard/deep it hits, but in the modulations and better response. By the time I was able to get the dsp portion setup and tuned properly it was Friday evening(and my ears were fatigued from tuning this thing all week) . My gf was with me past two days so made it little more difficult to really test the system fully, but its extremely impressive now. Very clear and more than enough clean bass (think im actually going to turn the sub gain down a notch or two). There was only one song that gave me some issues, but i think it has more to do with the two way speaker setup in the base hybrid not having a separate tweeter. Even with my upgraded speakers, it got distorted at an unexpected volume level in one section compared to other songs i was listening to, testing the system. I listen to (especially testing the system) a wide variety of music, (trance, rock, rap, jazz, just about everything). The one song that distorted was a vocal dubstep song with a lot going on in that section. Everything else i listened to is clear at high volumes.
I also wound up making a tiny notch in the seat rail cover because it was putting pressure on the L rca connector. I also mad a hole in the gap and ran the cable through it to help minimize it as well. WIll give one more update tonight.

EDIT: Forgot to mention if you are using this with a PSU300 your going to want to make sure to switch the last two jumpers to the up position I believe. #5 is to switch from 2ch to 4ch which made a massive difference in sound. #6 is to switch the source to RCA.
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On the pic of the inside of the armrest/shifter. That bolt with the blue wire attached to the metal. Did you use that as your grounding point? I thought about using it but I wasn't sure if it was a ground or not. I ended up using the ground under the same spot but more towards the engine.
 

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On the pic of the inside of the armrest/shifter. That bolt with the blue wire attached to the metal. Did you use that as your grounding point? I thought about using it but I wasn't sure if it was a ground or not. I ended up using the ground under the same spot but more towards the engine.
Yes something from the factory was already ground there so I used that for my psu300 and the dsp.
 

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So after listening to it for a few days now its def a massive improvement. The bass hits now and sound is much clearer/louder. I have the eq in the head unit turned down a notch on bass, mid and treble. Bass control knob on my psu doesnt go above halfway now. Only got distortion on the one song, but again I attribute that to two way setup in the stock hybrid. Its amazing how the sound seems to be coming from the center of the car now, even with no center speaker there. It hits very hard for an 8in sub with only 120w. Modulations and bass tones that were missing are now present. There are still some rap songs with very deep bass where you can tell its a smaller sub, but overall very impressive.
 

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Hey man, any reason you didn't go with a lc2i pro?
Was a matter of wiring with my PSU300 really. I didn't have to cut or splice anything because of the connectors they included. I have also been reading lately of quite a few people having problems with the lc2i.
I am having some issues with the sub seems to not be getting enough signal at lower volumes, and the sub cuts in and out a little. Sent Kicker an email for help. Seems to happen volumes lower than 15. I may have to change a setting or something.
 

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I have a psu300acd as well, hence my interest in your post. I like the idea of an easy install NGL. Concerning to hear about ur issues with it. Keep this thread updated.
 

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I have a psu300acd as well, hence my interest in your post. I like the idea of an easy install NGL. Concerning to hear about ur issues with it. Keep this thread updated.
For sure took a couple days for them to respond to emails last time. Install was super easy with the PSU300. Just plugged the female rca up and clipped in the rca supplied with the psu300. Made a notch for the rca in the plastic. Lmk of you have anymore questions will update once hear back from kicker.
 

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You ever hear back?
Yes but we are still working tomorrow fix the problem. I tore my dash apart three times last week and have been busy this weekend. Basically Kicker believes the DC offset signal is lower now so the sub interprets that as it enough power so it shuts it off( I believe that's what he said I'll double check my emails). We believe hooking up the remote power switch to the PSU will stop this. I sort of did this already but need to check things further, and I also may run a separate lone to it vs sharing the existing dsp power line. I need to grab my voltmeter now at this point more than likely. Kicker customer service has been awesome btw.
 

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At this point I'm really considering just dropping the PSU300ACD; and getting a proper 5channel and sub. Non hybrid so I won't have any issues.
 

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You still run into the problem of needing a dsp and then you have to wire everything independent to the amp. If ultimately what your looking for is super hard hitting bass, and 8in sub with 120w is not what your looking for.
 

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Ok so I tore everything apart a few times past couple weeks. Kicker has determined it's a lack of DC offset in the signal now causing the problem. I wired the remote wire on the sub and I helped a little but still cuts in and out a lvl 10-11 and below( some song 12-14). I was going to live with it and then I contacted Alpine. They were rude and arrogant. From the get go even in email they blamed everything else but their product. They responded once through email, Kicker at 62 messages back and forth and counting. Alpine told me the dsp can possibly be wired in th way it is when I physically did it with my own two hands. They said, in a roundabout way without knowing the other companies I was talking to, that both Kicker and Crutchfield have no idea what they are talking about. I'm considering pulling out the Alpine sub and leaving the power pack for the main speakers and putting in a Kicker hs8. I can sell the sub( PWE-S8) by itself and will be almost a wash in terms of price. Talking to Kicker to see if the harness will just plig right in.

Ok so I tore everything apart a few times past couple weeks. Kicker has determined it's a lack of DC offset in the signal now causing the problem. I wired the remote wire on the sub and I helped a little but still cuts in and out a lvl 10-11 and below( some song 12-14). I was going to live with it and then I contacted Alpine. They were rude and arrogant. From the get go even in email they blamed everything else but their product. They responded once through email, Kicker at 62 messages back and forth and counting. Alpine told me the dsp can possibly be wired in th way it is when I physically did it with my own two hands. They said, in a roundabout way without knowing the other companies I was talking to, that both Kicker and Crutchfield have no idea what they are talking about. I'm considering pulling out the Alpine sub and leaving the power pack for the main speakers and putting in a Kicker hs8. I can sell the sub( PWE-S8) by itself and will be almost a wash in terms of price. Talking to Kicker to see if the harness will just plig right in.
 

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I was content to leave it alone until Alpine pissed me off honestly. It is a super easy install with the PSU for sure. That being said I may be able to fit the Kicker 10" at 180w under the seat. I will almost definitely be able to fit the 8" at 150w which would be about 25% more power than the Alpine. Because of the supply issues right now my used sub is worth almost as much as a new one. I'm also super impressed with Kicker customer service. I mean Jacob has been absolutely fantastic. You would think the Alpine sub is their product. Already running their speakers in my front doors as well. So it's the combination of those factors at this point honestly now that I think about it.
 
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