[Cepega]

As an added bonus these are uni-directional so when it's time to "rotate" these tires lifting one side of the car at a time is all you need to do.

Front to back and back to front. Easy peasy!

Sorry, not a fan of lifting a car on side so that both wheels are off the ground. Entire front or back end at any given one time only.

 

[200366HFP]

Sorry, not a fan of lifting a car on side so that both wheels are off the ground. Entire front or back end at any given one time only.

Why? What's the difference? I do it all the time, sometimes when rotating summer tires I have a right front and a left rear off the ground at the same time - two floor jacks work nicely.

 

[Cepega]

Why? What's the difference? I do it all the time, sometimes when rotating summer tires I have a right front and a left rear off the ground at the same time - two floor jacks work nicely.

Personal preference, one jack. Less body twisting.

 

[200366HFP]

Personal preference, one jack. Less body twisting.

How do you rotate tires then? Or do you take it to a shop that lifts the whole car?

Your daily driving probably twists the car a shit ton more than two jacks ever will...

 

[Cepega]

How do you rotate tires then? Or do you take it to a shop that lifts the whole car?

Your daily driving probably twists the car a shit ton more than two jacks ever will...

Rotation is during summer/winter tire swap.

 

[Cepega]

Winters are directional tires.

 

[200366HFP]

Rotation is during summer/winter tire swap.

Cool - I rotate my summer tires every 2000-2500 miles, because they wear quickly being really soft, to avoid cupping or inner tire wear from the rears. Probably put on 18-20k a summer, but only 2-3k in the winter. She gets parked for all of January and February and a few weeks on each side of that.

 

[0dyfamily]

Why? What's the difference? I do it all the time, sometimes when rotating summer tires I have a right front and a left rear off the ground at the same time - two floor jacks work nicely.

This is a great way of doing it.

Modern ACE-designed body shells don't twist. You're not hurting anything.

I kind of make it like a "production line" myself ...

• Jack up rear, install jack stands.
• Jack up front, install jack stands.
• Remove all the wheels with one of my impact guns.
• Swap wheels! L'il bit of anti-seize on each stud.
• Zip the lugs back on, lightly, with the impact.
• Lower front end to ground, lightly, torque front wheel lugs to 60 ft-lbs.
• Lower front end entirely, then lower rear end lightly to ground, rear lugs get 60 ft-lbs. of torque.
  
• Lower rear end entirely, final torque 80 ft-lbs. on all four corners, go drive!

OF

 

[0dyfamily]

Aside, from rotating the hides ...

... daughter is really liking these Michelin Cross Climate 2 tires.

Latest progress report: she says it's a different car (better).

She'll be able to take better advantage of the tires' capabilities on a decreasing radius, descending 270° on-ramp once I install the 17mm '09 TSX rear stabilizer bar (stock is 13mm for her 8th gen LX I4 Sedan).

OF

 

[esr17hac]

I put the CrossClimate 2 on my 2013 V6 to replace the Blizzak/ MXV4 dual wheel setup that required me to switch sets for winter/rest-of-the-year.

I knew the compromise of leaving the dedicated snows but have been extremely satisfied with the grip in the rain as well as snow. Dry pavement IS very quiet but that can be attributed to the "tuned" pattern. Normally the open sides at the shoulder of the tread blocks would typically be uber-loud ala off-road all terrains.

Engineering Explained had a very informative YT

I work with 4 co-workers that use these also and they are totally sold.

Did you find any major change in your MPG? Only one setup on a Honda Odyssey seems to have affected the MPG for this person by a solid 2 mpg. He tracks his MPG religiously so I trust his findings. Same rotations per mile, etc,etc.

But I'm sold.

Mike,
I have a 2016 EX 2.4 6MT. I believe the original tires were Goodyear but unfortunately I cannot recall the tire model.
I replaced the Goodyears with CC2's 30k miles ago.

I'm fairly diligent about tracking the fuel economy and am comfortable stating that after 30K miles on the CC2's
my EX gets about 7-8% less mpg than the Goodyears.

I am satisfied with the tires for traction, wet and snowy road performance, and noise. The mpg drop is
the downside. FWIW most of my driving now nets 36-38 mpg in summer and 33-36 in winter. Goodyear
mpg under similar weather and driving conditions was 38-41 in summer and 35-38 in winter.

Most of my driving is solo occupant, same stuff in the vehicle, similar roads and speeds, la, la, la. My comparisons
are over significant amounts of time and distance and I believe that negates wind and accessory use in the
vehicle.

 

[hawk51]

Normally I don't post a "review" of an item unless I truly stand behind it (even though I'm an automotive journalist/ Youtuber in my spare time, so I review just about everything).

I've put a lot of tire brands on my vehicles over the years. While the performance side of me says a nice performance brand like Pirelli, Nitto, Yokohama, Toyo or Falken seems appropriate, the Michelin Cross Climate 2 tires that were installed on my 2014 Accord Sedan right before I bought it are AMAZING!

After dealing with cold, slippery and very rainy conditions here in Houston as of recent, these tires are beautiful in the rain. Plenty of grip and road feel, even at freeway speeds. On dry tarmac/ concrete, they don't produce much road noise and do have a bit of a medium firmness on the road. Not too sure on their longevity but I will definitely be posting more as I go along.

What tires do you all prefer on your cars? Which is the best brand tire you would recommend to anyone?

I have had Cross Climate 2 on my '17 Touring, 19" for about 5k miles. I mirror your post exactly with my opinion. One other thing I noticed was that the grip in normal driving gives the driver a definite feeling of confidence. The ride is great and road noise ( a major gripe of mine) is non existant.

 

[hawk51]

I put the CrossClimate 2 on my 2013 V6 to replace the Blizzak/ MXV4 dual wheel setup that required me to switch sets for winter/rest-of-the-year.

I knew the compromise of leaving the dedicated snows but have been extremely satisfied with the grip in the rain as well as snow. Dry pavement IS very quiet but that can be attributed to the "tuned" pattern. Normally the open sides at the shoulder of the tread blocks would typically be uber-loud ala off-road all terrains.

Engineering Explained had a very informative YT

I work with 4 co-workers that use these also and they are totally sold.

Did you find any major change in your MPG? Only one setup on a Honda Odyssey seems to have affected the MPG for this person by a solid 2 mpg. He tracks his MPG religiously so I trust his findings. Same rotations per mile, etc,etc.

But I'm sold.

My mileage has stayed the same on the '17 Touring. I average mid 30's, mostly highway and open road in town.