MPGs with 2023 Hybrids

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Angelja

Discussion Starter · 3 mo ago

As I've gotten used to driving a hybrid, I've found it quite interesting how driving habits seem to impact fuel economy in ways I didn't initially expect. I likely will not change my driving style in the interest of maximizing fuel economy over time, but in the past week or two have paid a bit more attention to check if my 23 touring model is in the expected MPG range. So far it definitely is with my average in the 42-44 range with mixed city and highway miles. But with some caveats ...

If you truly push the car non-stop very aggressively, yes fuel economy suffers and you'll be lucky to be in the 30s especially if you're in a hilly area. No surprise there. But ... on the flip side if you drive the car very conservatively as if you were trying to conserve gas (as I would in any other traditional ICE), fuel economy also seems to suffer. That is, If I gently accelerate to desired speed with light pressure on the accelerator, the engine is on the entire time fueling either the battery or the drive motor, and the direct drive clutch is not engaged until you get to desired speed. Fuel economy suffers this entire time. However, if I accelerate more briskly to desired speed - whether it's 40, 50, 60, 70, whatever - then settle into that speed, the engine turns off and you're EV, or the direct drive clutch engages for higher MPGs. Maybe this is old news for hybrid owners, but I found it quite interesting. And I've found it very useful to use regenerative breaking to both charge the battery and save the brakes. In a few short weeks, driving a different car that doesn't have this feature is suddenly odd! I really like that feature. Regardless, it's been refreshing that in my limited experience more aggressive driving actually seems to yield better MPGs!

Curious if others have noticed this?

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MartyV6

· #101 · 7 d ago

If you know the miles you drove and you know the amount of fuel you used in that period then yes that is MPG. Not sure why this kid wants to suggest that the "app" isn't correct. Troll time here on the farm

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Accord_Mike

· #102 · 6 d ago

MartyV6 said:
If you know the miles you drove and you know the amount of fuel you used in that period then yes that is MPG. Not sure why this kid wants to suggest that the "app" isn't correct. Troll time here on the farm

You have to empty the tank and start from scratch to know much you are filling the tank with. And, you have to do it on the same route, same conditions, multiple times to get an accurate figure of what the true MPG is. Going by some App and spouting off that as gospel that you can achieve 55+mpg on the Accord Hybrid is a little disingenuous. Not saying the OP was purposely trying to do that, but when I questioned it, the Hybrid fans call me a troll.

My saying is whatever gets you through the night. You want to believe 55+MPG, 5.8 sec 0-60 times and low 14 sec 1/4 mile times for the Hybrid, live and let live. Don’t let me be the one to spoil your dreams.

For me, I just try to take a realistic expectation of things. If it sounds too good to be true, it usually is from my experience.

Like I said before, I’m glad we have the choice of Hybrid and non hybrid gas turbo engine for the new Accord. They’re both great cars.

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jkash99

· #103 · 6 d ago

Accord_Mike said:
You have to empty the tank and start from scratch to know much you are filling the tank with. And, you have to do it on the same route, same conditions, multiple times to get an accurate figure of what the true MPG is. Going by some App and spouting off that as gospel that you can achieve 55+mpg on the Accord Hybrid is a little disingenuous. Not saying the OP was purposely trying to do that, but when I questioned it, the Hybrid fans call me a troll.

My saying is whatever gets you through the night. You want to believe 55+MPG, 5.8 sec 0-60 times and low 14 sec 1/4 mile times for the Hybrid, live and let live. Don’t let me be the one to spoil your dreams.

For me, I just try to take a realistic expectation of things. If it sounds too good to be true, it usually is from my experience.

Like I said before, I’m glad we have the choice of Hybrid and non hybrid gas turbo engine for the new Accord. They’re both great cars.

This still doesn’t make sense. Why is an owner of a vehicle going to conduct a test to see what they get on one trip repeatedly? Why does someone have to drain the tank? What does that have anything to do with what MPG they are getting in the real world? Real world MPG is (ODO end - ODO start)/(Gallons used to fill up). As long as you are consistent in how you fill up, like counting it at 1 click or doing 2 clicks at the pump with a set time between it then it’s what they are getting.

I’m not arguing with you that hybrid is better, reality is I would have gotten the 1.5T or 2.0T (if it was offered) had they offered it with the 12” screen and saved myself $3000. I’m just confused why you are trying to discredit people and being illogical.

This is my MPG on my 10 mile trip home from work. Not to difficult to get, although I am averaging 46mpg since I got 17” wheels because I do a lot of sub 5-mile trips which hurt all vehicles MPG, ICE or hybrid.

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Splashman24

· #104 · 6 d ago

Thanks Joshua. I just did my third fill up today. I picked up my Touring Hybrid on 3/18. Note the mileage on my trip home from the gas station. Obviously that is an outlier trip but I’m consistently getting 50+ mpg. In my 2018 Touring Hybrid w the 19 inch chrome wheels, I consistently averaged 39 to 40mpg.

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Dudley

· #105 · 6 d ago

Accord_Mike said:
You have to empty the tank and start from scratch to know much you are filling the tank with. And, you have to do it on the same route, same conditions, multiple times to get an accurate figure of what the true MPG is.

Absolutely untrue. You do not have to empty the tank every time. Basic math tells us how much gas is used every time we fill up. Don't have to fill up all the way. Now a very small fill up will be slightly less accurate of course.

As far as repeating the route goes - why? That will only give your gas mileage for that route, and will be meaningless. Especially on this forum where people are trying to see what they might be able to get based on the experience of others.

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MartyV6

· #106 · 6 d ago

Dudley said:
Absolutely untrue. You do not have to empty the tank every time. Basic math tells us how much gas is used every time we fill up. Don't have to fill up all the way. Now a very small fill up will be slightly less accurate of course.

As far as repeating the route goes - why? That will only give your gas mileage for that route, and will be meaningless. Especially on this forum where people are trying to see what they might be able to get based on the experience of others.

Thank you

AccordMike - Dawn Breaks Over Marblehead?

If you fill your car all the way up at least once, then the next time as long as you fill your car all the way up again, you will know how much gas you added. As noted above. If you added only 5 gallons, you can still calc your mpg by taking the number of miles compared to those 5 gallons used

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SoonerKevin

· #107 · 6 d ago

I don't know about y'all but my 2022 Hybrid Touring always reported higher MPG on the readout than when I did the math myself. Unless something has changed in the 2023, then I wouldn't trust it. Hope to be picking up a 2023 Touring here in the next week to replace my totaled 2022.

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jkash99

· #108 · 6 d ago

SoonerKevin said:
I don't know about y'all but my 2022 Hybrid Touring always reported higher MPG on the readout than when I did the math myself. Unless something has changed in the 2023, then I wouldn't trust it. Hope to be picking up a 2023 Touring here in the next week to replace my totaled 2022.

It’s only about 1-2mpg off for me. Gonna get a bunch of fill ups in the next 10 days so we shall see for sure

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Ales

· #109 · 3 d ago

Accord_Mike said:
The best way to judge MPG is to actually measure how much fuel you are putting in the tank and then recording how many miles you have driven on that tankful to calculate MPG. Just going by an App reading can many times be inaccurate and mostly optimistic. 55 MPG sounds very generous. I’m guessing you had a strong tailwind to get that figure.

This is based on total actual miles per odometer and actual gallons put in