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Sorry folks, my review is about 2 months late.

Its been one year 22k miles later and sad to say there is nothing to report. Sorry folks its a boring car. It starts every morning and gets me to work and gets me back home. I take it on trips and it gets me back. It gets good gas mileage on those trips, about 33 MPG. I average about 26 in Los Angeles traffic grind. It’s a new car; I expect that after just fewer than 23K it should be relatively trouble free. If you had any big issues now is a good time to GTFO.

3 Oil changes, 1 tire rotation, 1 drain and fill, and 1 cabin air filter. Basic maintenance.

Okay the big question often asked to V6 owners, VCM. Really, its no big deal. All this talk about vibration issues is purely overblown. If anything I have a bigger issue with EPS making steering feel numb.

I’m surprised how little talk there is about the 9th gen switching over to McPherson struts. I guess it isn’t such a big deal after all. I thought the double wishbone was one of the selling points. Yes, if I push the car really hard, it does seem like the cornering limits are not as good as the TL-S or the 6th gen EX-L V6. That probably has more to do with the tires, although the 6th gen had some pretty sad looking tires on it, but it did corner better than my 9th. I’m sure that factored in when Honda decided to retire the V6.

What do I like?

V6 engine: Hard to beat smoothness and power of V6 engine. The “obsolete” J series will go on for years as it’s a proven design. Now transmissions are a different story.

Good fuel economy. I can’t complain, I went from 19 MPG on Premium to 26 MPG on regular.

Lanewatch, interestingly I like it. Others seem to think BSM is better or just hate on lanewatch.

What do I dislike?

Transmission gear hunting. With modern cars geared purely for fuel economy, this might happen some when slowing down. It almost feels like the car is on the brink of the engine lugging.

Tires: The OEM Michelins squeal a bit too much for my liking and I am not a fan of 215s. I would have preferred a wider tire as standard. I will replace these with a better tire once these wear out next year.

Brakes, I think I would have preferred the beefed up ones on the Sport or Touring models.

What am I am not sure if it’s a like or dislike?

EPS while it does make the steering numb it does make the car easier to drive at low speeds and in parking lots. It’s a lot more linear and consistent.

Audio system, I prefer to use USB sticks for my music. I was a bit annoyed at first that CDs were gone from most cars (yes, the Accord has one) but now I am I am able to put all of my CDs on 1 stick. Nice. Now it has the occasional glitch or two, still thought a call was going on when hang up failed, went into test mode, gets stuck on AM radio channel but turning off car and restarting system fixes this and it might happen about once in two months. Makes me wonder about the long term reliability of the system and I hate to think how much it will cost to fix. Talk about lack of a physical volume knob or tuning knob is a bit overblown too. Once I have the stations set I don’t need a tuning knob. I guess it’s a big deal if you review cars. Volume control is done on the steering wheel.

(end of review)

How did I decide on the Honda Accord EX-L V6 2017?

Replace 2002 Acura TL-S

Car was over 15 years old and over 200K. Both are my trigger points to replace it. That is usually the time when cost of keeping it running is often not worth it and it’s a good idea to start looking. At least start doing research.

Goal in mind was to replace car with something smaller, lighter, more fun to drive and more fuel efficient. Typical drive was mostly highway in Los Angeles commute grind. Prefer 4 door Sedan vehicle as they are typically the cheapest to insure and I dislike SUV like vehicles.

That put smaller compact vehicles such as the Mazda 3 and Civic on the top of my list first. After test drives of those vehicles and comparing them to my nearly 16 year old TL-S, I didn’t consider them good enough as replacements. I preferred my old car even with 200K miles on it.

Decided I would try larger heavier cars such as Mazda 6, Honda Accord Sport and Lexus IS 250. I didn’t like any of them. I liked the AT transmission and engine on the Mazda 6, the ride and handling on the Honda Accord Sport and well the Lexus IS is RWD….if only I can combine the 3.

Now I had to start looking at alternatives that I wasn’t considering. A friend was hyping up a Hyundai Elantra. OK, what do I have to lose at this point? It has a normal 6 AT. The car drove much better than Hyundais of the past, but the Torsion bar rear suspension made it unacceptable over bad pavement. If this is the 3rd best compact car on the market no need to test drive anything else.

Considered a Miata, I sat in it. Yes, I fit. This car would be awesome until I had to move more than myself. Considering most of my commute is straight lines how much would I really make use of this car’s athletic ability? Not much. I knew darn well if I test drove it, I would do something silly like buy it and hate myself later.

Started looking at some CPO alternatives, TSX, TL, BMW 320/328, Infiniti G37/Q50, Lexus IS/ES some interesting deals but I see how much folks abuse their vehicles. I prefer new. ES350, the steering on that car is so numb I didn’t need to drive it more than ½ mile to decide nope.

Torque converter failed on the TL-S on the way to work so my hand was forced. Mazda 3, 10th gen Honda Civic EX-L, Acura TLX and Honda Accord Sport were the alternates but V6 feel and normal Automatic transmission won out in the end. There was also a good forum community on Honda Accords which was also a factor in my decision.
 

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I only have 650 miles on my 17 coupe v6. Looking forward to many trouble free miles on mine as well.
Thanks for the write up on your experience.
 
Thanks for the review. Appreciate the honest information.

I just got a '15 Accord Sedan EX-L V6 on Thursday.
 
I'm just under 12k miles and my experience has been identical. 1 oil change, no issues, 26mpg combined, mid30's on all highway... yup. Pretty spot on.
 
2014 EX-L V6, 35,500 miles

I'm the second owner of a 2014 EX-L V6 with Navigation coming up on 36,000 miles. I got the car at around 13,000 miles -- previous owner was an older woman, so kind of the dream used car.

Only issues/downsides so far:
  • The ivory leather picks up dye from my blue jeans. The jeans aren't new, but my seat definitely has a blue tinge.
  • My car battery died this morning. It was my own fault because I had the car's ignition in the On position (rather than accessory) with the engine off while using a 12-volt air compressor to inflate my girlfriend's bike tire for too long.
  • The dealer wants to charge me hundreds of dollars to install the Siri Eyes Free Mode update. I think I'll end up doing this myself for about $10 + my time.
  • 0W20 weight motor oil is more expensive (but it does last longer.)
  • Map updates aren't free.

Overall these issues are very minor compared to the Volvo I had before this. I'm hoping to keep this car for quite a long time (another 100,000 miles or so) and look forward to (hopefully) a pretty boring time at the mechanic.
 
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I only have 650 miles on my 17 coupe v6. Looking forward to many trouble free miles on mine as well.
Thanks for the write up on your experience.
Thanks for the review. Appreciate the honest information.

I just got a '15 Accord Sedan EX-L V6 on Thursday.
I'm just under 12k miles and my experience has been identical. 1 oil change, no issues, 26mpg combined, mid30's on all highway... yup. Pretty spot on.
'15 V6 coupe with 27K - no problems - oil changes only -
good write-up
2016 V6 with 14k miles...did some 2-3 hr long drives...love the power of V6
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Thanks for the feedback. There really isn't anything really exciting to write about, it just does its job. Could a few things be made better? Sure. Given what traffic is usually like for me, even the 4 cyl Accord is more than enough power. With all of the SUVs on the road the Accord is basically a sports car handling wise in comparison.


I'm the second owner of a 2014 EX-L V6 with Navigation coming up on 36,000 miles. I got the car at around 13,000 miles -- previous owner was an older woman, so kind of the dream used car.

Only issues/downsides so far:
  • The ivory leather picks up dye from my blue jeans. The jeans aren't new, but my seat definitely has a blue tinge.
  • My car battery died this morning. It was my own fault because I had the car's ignition in the On position (rather than accessory) with the engine off while using a 12-volt air compressor to inflate my girlfriend's bike tire for too long.
  • The dealer wants to charge me hundreds of dollars to install the Siri Eyes Free Mode update. I think I'll end up doing this myself for about $10 + my time.
  • 0W20 weight motor oil is more expensive (but it does last longer.)
  • Map updates aren't free.

Overall these issues are very minor compared to the Volvo I had before this. I'm hoping to keep this car for quite a long time (another 100,000 miles or so) and look forward to (hopefully) a pretty boring time at the mechanic.
I certainly expect to buy tires once the current ones get to about 50K. I just wanted the V6 and a V6 sport would have been perfect. I don't really care for all of the extra gadgets, just more stuff to go wrong with the car.
 
I have a 2014 EX-L V6 Sedan and I love the V6 engine. I've modified the intake with a K&N short ram and the exhaust with a Borla Type S.

Having previously owned and coming from a 2009 Infiniti G37 V6 sedan, everything about the car was immaculate but I had to get rid of that car because of transmission lag issues. I almost got into a wreck because the transmission would not downshift gears and give me that powerful pickup while making a lane change. Multiple trips to the dealer and even performing the recommended transmission firmware update did not do anything to the vehicle. I even bought into a silly idea that perhaps the transmission wasn't being grounded and ended up purchasing heavy-duty 4 gauge wire harness to ground certain points on the vehicle. SMH!!

Perhaps the new Q50 series may have ironed out all the transmission issues that the G37 was plagued with, but I would look into the transmission history and/or forums that may say yay or nay as the problem may have been reborn from the G37 into the nearly branded Q50. I bought that G37 as a 2nd hand vehicle with 38,000 miles on it. I only put 10K, owned it for a year and used it for commuting before I got rid of it. The G37is a rocketship- fast, responsive when working, and a nice, throaty exhaust note, soft touch leather and comfy seats.
 
I have a 2014 EX-L V6 Sedan and I love the V6 engine. I've modified the intake with a K&N short ram and the exhaust with a Borla Type S.
Any pictures or videos of your setup/exhaust?
 
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I have a 2014 EX-L V6 Sedan and I love the V6 engine. I've modified the intake with a K&N short ram and the exhaust with a Borla Type S.

Having previously owned and coming from a 2009 Infiniti G37 V6 sedan, everything about the car was immaculate but I had to get rid of that car because of transmission lag issues. I almost got into a wreck because the transmission would not downshift gears and give me that powerful pickup while making a lane change. Multiple trips to the dealer and even performing the recommended transmission firmware update did not do anything to the vehicle. I even bought into a silly idea that perhaps the transmission wasn't being grounded and ended up purchasing heavy-duty 4 gauge wire harness to ground certain points on the vehicle. SMH!!

Perhaps the new Q50 series may have ironed out all the transmission issues that the G37 was plagued with, but I would look into the transmission history and/or forums that may say yay or nay as the problem may have been reborn from the G37 into the nearly branded Q50. I bought that G37 as a 2nd hand vehicle with 38,000 miles on it. I only put 10K, owned it for a year and used it for commuting before I got rid of it. The G37is a rocketship- fast, responsive when working, and a nice, throaty exhaust note, soft touch leather and comfy seats.
I looked over both of those, G37 and Q50. The biggest issue I have is that its a Nissan product. I had a rental Altima, it wasn't bad, I could certainly live with the vehicle. I just don't feel Nissans will hold up as well as they used to. To move product they were offering almost $7000 markdowns on new Q50s and $6000 on Maximas. They were late with the 2016 and were still selling new 2015s with the old VQ. Actually, I would probably prefer the Q50 with the VQ instead of the 2.0T

Nissan had the problem that people were buying up 3.5 Altima SRs for 24K OTD. That hurt sales of other VQ Nissans. 2018 the 3.5 SR is gone.

There are certainly deals to be had on both new and used Q50s. I just won't be one of them. You might still find G37 or Q40 I think they are under 20K CPO now.
 
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Good review! I love my V6 Touring Sedan, but don’t like the 6AT. Gear hunting and general jerkiness, and the issue of the rattling noise under light throttle the dealer can’t find and that several other members have experienced with no solution. Once that gets sorted, either they find and fix or whatever it is fails and they fix, I’ll be pretty much satisfied. That V6 is a jewel of an engine and has plenty of power for daily driving. Very smooth and quiet. After owning nothing but 4-cylinders the past 14 years, the V6 is a whole new experience!
 
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Hell I have an 8th gen V6 with 124k miles. All I've had to do besides regular maintenance is change one coil pack and plug. Love the power!
 
Wait a second Inspire02. Did I get this right? Your fuel economy improved when you switched from premium to regular gas? From 19mpg to 26mpg? Is this a common experience?? Did I miss something? I've been running nothing but premium for the first 5000 miles, and it looks like I've been averaging 9.3 L/100km, which is about 25.2 US mpg or 30.3 Imperial mpg.

This has been a great review of what I can expect out of my '17 Accord EX-L V6 over the next year or two. Inspire02, I have the wider tires on mine. I went with the 18" rims off the standard '17 Accord Coupe, which are 235/45 on 18" rims. I personally really like the setup, and it is rather unique. This setup gives me the same outer diameter as the 17" stock wheel setup, to eliminate/reduce the effect on the odometer.
I too have some harsher shifting in the transmission, but it's mainly on downshifting. From what I understand, which, I admit, is minimal, the Honda automatic transmission functions like a manual transmission, but works manually. This would explain the downshift feeling I get from the car. Overall, I really don't mind it, as it makes me feel like the car is actually doing something...it adds a sport dimension to the driving somehow.
BTW, I saw a '17 Touring today is bright silver....beautiful color scheme!!
 
I searched most of 2017 for what a dealership in my area called the 'white elephant'. 2017 V6 coupe EXL w/ 6 speed black on black. Finally got a different dealership to bring one in from the Indy factory direct. Came off the line in July, onto a truck and delivered to the dealership w/ zero miles.

This is only my 2nd brand new vechile. Ironiclly the 1st was a '91 Prelude SI. In between I've driven a Volvo S60 intercooled turbo, a BMW 328is, and a Saab 93 aero. They were all manual trans, sans the Volvo, so I knew goining in I had to have a clutch in this car. My only reservation was not getting the upgraded 5 spoke wheels that come on the touring sedan. Since the car was coming factory direct, I even incurred about swapping to those rims, but got the song and dance about a $2400 upgrade cost.

I'd say (as others have) the V6 is incredible. Paired with the manual, I can routinely drop Audi A4's and BMW 3's. I do a lotta highway driving, and this car really impresses between 4th and 5th gears. My one complaint would be the gate into 5th can be a bit tricky, and if you try to short clutch it, it won't engage. The other thing that could be better is the launch out of 1st. I've been driving manual trans vechicles forever, and you gotta be spot on with your clutch to pedal ratio to avoid those jerky launches. I'd say this is probably the most tempromental gear box I've driven, behind that BMW.

When you catch everyting flush, this car is a beast though. Chirping gears, head thrown into the seat rest, its really friggin' under rated. So glad I didn't wait for the '18....
 
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Wait a second Inspire02. Did I get this right? Your fuel economy improved when you switched from premium to regular gas? From 19mpg to 26mpg? Is this a common experience?? Did I miss something? I've been running nothing but premium for the first 5000 miles, and it looks like I've been averaging 9.3 L/100km, which is about 25.2 US mpg or 30.3 Imperial mpg.

This has been a great review of what I can expect out of my '17 Accord EX-L V6 over the next year or two. Inspire02, I have the wider tires on mine. I went with the 18" rims off the standard '17 Accord Coupe, which are 235/45 on 18" rims. I personally really like the setup, and it is rather unique. This setup gives me the same outer diameter as the 17" stock wheel setup, to eliminate/reduce the effect on the odometer.
I too have some harsher shifting in the transmission, but it's mainly on downshifting. From what I understand, which, I admit, is minimal, the Honda automatic transmission functions like a manual transmission, but works manually. This would explain the downshift feeling I get from the car. Overall, I really don't mind it, as it makes me feel like the car is actually doing something...it adds a sport dimension to the driving somehow.
BTW, I saw a '17 Touring today is bright silver....beautiful color scheme!!
You did miss something. the 19 MPG I was getting was with a 2002 Acura TL-S. Age and mileage was certainly catching up with the car. One of the reasons why I was looking for something that got better mileage.

Welcome to the world of cars being programmed purely for fuel economy.
 
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