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First road trip with my Accord. 4 hours one way. Houston to the Hill Country town of Fredericksburg, TX. Used econ mode for the whole trip and used cruise control as often as possible. Speed limit is 75 and I set cruise control at 80. Every normal car passed me on the road as most people were doing 85 and above. My average speed was about 70 and out of the 300 miles covered by the end of the day, consumption was 43mpg. Not the best I was hoping for, but looks good to me since I used only half a tank of gas to drive 300 miles today.
Cruising at 80mph with my V1 Gen2. But every decent car on the road zoomed past me doing 85 and above.

My Accord posing for a shot at the first winery we stopped at.

Next winery was Fat Ass winery. I strongly recommend. It was so much fun here. Life music. People dancing, interacting with other and just a very joyful atmosphere.

After doing the tasting here, bought some wine and called it a day.


Tomorrow is my return trip from Fredericksburg to Houston. Another 4 hours drive. This time, I will do the whole trip in Sports mode. I want to see what the Hybrid can do.
 

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Just got home from my weekend road trip and the first trip with my Hybrid. I am pretty impressed. Going was a nice and simple ride with the flow of traffic where I was doing most of the time 80. Spees limit was 75 and I set my cruise to 80, but every single decent car just zoomed passed me.

Today was my 4 hours drive back home. Today was the day to test its capabilities and performance. It didn't disappoint. Sports Mode was pretty good, but I found that Normal mode has the best balance of some spirited driving and just cruising some times. But normal mode tops out at one fifteen! I don't know if it would have been any different if I had it in Sports Mode.

The Hybrid is pretty peppy for quick bursts to overtake and quickly get back on the slow lane to cruise.

Overall, I have seen the limits of the Hybrid and spirited driving comes at a huge cost of very poor gas mileage. It was a nice test for me to see how the hybrid performs on normal drives and on long spirited road trips.



 

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MotorTrend wrote an article on the Accord and said if Honda were to build a Type R of the 10th gen, it should look like this. I like the way it looks and decided to save the picture on my thread since it is a good picture to stumble upon.


 

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First road trip with my Accord. 4 hours one way. Houston to the Hill Country town of Fredericksburg, TX. Used econ mode for the whole trip and used cruise control as often as possible....

Tomorrow is my return trip from Fredericksburg to Houston. Another 4 hours drive. This time, I will do the whole trip in Sports mode. I want to see what the Hybrid can do.
Today was my 4 hours drive back home. Today was the day to test its capabilities and performance. It didn't disappoint. Sports Mode was pretty good, but I found that Normal mode has the best balance of some spirited driving and just cruising some times. But normal mode tops out at one fifteen! I don't know if it would have been any different if I had it in Sports Mode.


I don't know exactly why, but you may need to compare round trips.

About once a week, we take a 40+40 mile round trip from Columbia, MD to Arlington, VA, to babysit the grandkids It's about 60% between mostly 55 mph speed limits, 30% 45 mph, and some local. But regardless of time-of-day (unless there is significant traffic), I get about 57 mpg outbound, and 51 mpg back. Part of that is due to elevation changes. The net change is not that much, but it is mostly at one end:
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I can actually watch the Trip A meter (reset at the beginning of the round trip) go down by 1 to 2 mpg as I climb the last hill.

I do most of my driving in ECON mode with cruise control; it reacts more slowly when I hit heavy traffic. SPORT is uncomfortable due to jerky acceleration. But I do punch the SPORT button when I anticipate the need.
 

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About once a week, we take a 40+40 mile round trip from Columbia, MD to Arlington, VA, to babysit the grandkids It's about 60% between mostly 55 mph speed limits, 30% 45 mph, and some local. But regardless of time-of-day (unless there is significant traffic), I get about 57 mpg outbound, and 51 mpg back.
Thanks for this input. You get some amazing gas mileage. Looking at your trip. It is 40 miles of mostly 55mph and a little 45mph. I can see why you are getting such great mileage. I hear that is the sweet spot on these hybrids.

Mine was on a longer trip. Houston to Fredericksburg. 240 miles. Speed limit is 75 for most of the journey. I set my cruise control on 80 for 3/4 of the journey and a few times, I stepped on it to get to 85 to pass 18wheelers. But at my speed of 80, every single normal car on the road passed me. To keep up woth traffic, I needed to be doing 85 to 90. So, by the time I was done with my 240 miles one way road trip, the car showed 43.4 mpg. Not bad doing mostly 80mph.

On my way back was a different story. I wanted to see how fast, agile and stable it could handle. It did not disappoint. But sadly, my 2008 Maxima that died on me and I bought this Accord to replace, is faster than this Accord. My Maxima could easily get to one-thirty, but the Accord topped out on me at one-fifteen. Quite fast for this hybrid 4 cylinder since it is not the 250hp V6 that I had in my Maxima.

I bought this car because I wanted something that is very good on gas and hope it lasts me atleast 10 years of ownership. So, this is the car for it and I am happy to know that if I need a little performance from it, it will give me.

This is to hoping I keep this car for 10 years plus. My 2008 Maxima, I bought brand new and I kept it for 12 years 3 months and put over 268,500 miles on it. My plan and hope is to keep this car too for that long or longer, except I get itchy and get a newer Accord Hybrid someday or say the Hybrid powerteain disappoints me with a major car repair bill.
 

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I ordered some leds from China for my high beams. It shipped on the 15th. I got it today the 19th. Quite fast with DHL.

9005 led high beams, 120w 12,000 lumens. Talk about bright! They are very bright, but my suv has ridiculously bright leds, so I just look at these as bright but since I am used to ridiculously bright leds from my suv, these are just ok but truly brighter than the stock halogens.

I decided to go outside tonight and install them in the driveway. I was very pleased with the leds. Truly an improvement in vision over the stock halogens. Well, I have some leds leftover. I will probably have to sell those now on Craigslist.







 

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I wanted a full size spare, so I went to discount tire and bought a brand new 225/50/17. I went home and installed it. It fits very well, but it is too high for the floor mat to cover it flush.

I really thought I could make it work, but no way to get it flush and no better place to keep that spare in the trunk. So, I returned it.

I ordered a donut spare off ebay for $170 shipped. It should be delivered this week. When I get it, I will make sure the tire pressure is right before I install it in my trunk.

Can't afford to drive this car without a spare tire.




I got my spare tire delivered today by FedEx.

The spare tire I bought is 145/80D R17. The normal spare tire in the Accord is 135/80D R17

Looking at the thread, I don't know for sure if this tire has been mounted on a car and driven on, but I will clean it up on my day off with all the jack and accessories before putting in my trunk and I hope it fits perfectly.
 

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Cleaned up my spare tire today and installed in my trunk. It does not fit perfectly flush, but fits flush enough.

The foam the guy sent was not the right foam. Good thing the dealership had given me a free foam for the spare tire as a gift after I asked them after giving them 100% review online. The foam came in handy for my spare tire. I didn't have to buy one for $50.

I am glad now that I have a spare tire. I can't afford to drive a car with no spare tire. You will know it is not a good idea only after when you have a flat where you actually need a tire and you are far away from any tire shop. Not a fun experience if you do not have a spare then.




I ordered these from China. It said it was going to take about 45 days to get to me, but glad it took only 15 days. Its just a decorative piece, but a very comfortable pillow for sure.


 

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Finally got my 144smd led light from ebay. Took a long time to get here for it being a US seller. I installed them and I like how brighter they are from stock. But removing that lamp housing from the car is not easy. You end up scratching your paint a little. Something very minute that when everything is installed back in place, only you can easily notice it.
144smd led from ebay

Led vs oem

Both leds installed. Very bright!

All done. It really lights up a lot of area in the back.
 

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Got my ebay spoiler. Painted gloss black and that is exactly how I will install it on my gray Accord.

Very fast shipping with FedEx from California. The spoiler itself is made in China.

I am busy with work. So, I will try to install when I can. I will install with the provided 3m tape. I hope it sticks firm. But when or if I get tired of it, I will take it off. Back to stock look. I like the simplicity of the stock look of this Honda Accord Hybrid.



 

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I filled up my gas tank 3 weeks ago and decided I wanted to see the most miles I can get from this tank of gas and what my mpg would be.

Today, when I was leaving home for work, my DTE showed 38 miles and 1 bar on the gas tank. 2 miles later, @ 36 miles to empty, the FUEL LOW light came on. I still had 15 miles to go to get to work. I kept on going.



I got to work and this is what my range and mpg shows.

Miles on this tank of gas : 597
My MPG for those miles: 55.8
Driving style: 50/50 highway and local streets. Speed limit on my way to work is 65mph. My highest speed on this tank of gas was about 72mph. But most often, I drive with cruise control somewhere between 60mph to 65mph. A/C was rarely used throughout this period. I will say I used the a/c only for about 100 miles on this whole tank of gas.



I am pretty impressed.

So, my DTE now is 23 miles as I am at work. But when I get off, I am going to drive the 20 miles straight home without filling up. I want to see more than 600 miles register on this tank of gas. I also wish to know the most miles I can drive after the FUEL LOW light comes on.

Tomorrow morning, I will fill up. Then I will see how many gallons I put in this small gas tank that is only 12.8 gallons.
 

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Just because they make something in China that fits on your Accord, doesn't mean you have to put it on your car. I've been reading your posts, but those pillows are the last straw.
It's really nice of you to stop by and read my posts. I enjoy documenting things I do to the cars I own such as maintenance, modification and road trips.

I buy a lot from China and enjoy shopping on alibaba. In fact, I do have one big package coming from China that will take a month to get here for another big thing that I will install in my Accord. I will share pictures when I get and install it.

But most importantly, I love my road trips and I always blog about them. If you have time to spare, you can scroll through my last year's road trip to see pictures and links to all my other yearly road trips. A passion of mine when my job is able to give me time off for vacation.

Here below is a link to my road trips. If you happen to have some free time to burn, take a look at my pictures and maybe read the blog if you would like to.

My July 2020 Road Trip...
 

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I would like to report an update on my mileage. I left work today for my 20 miles drive back home, though with my car was showing 23 miles to empty. Because of not wanting to run out of gas, I made sure to drive my car as best as I know how to drive this Hybrid now. Though I still have a lot to learn about this car.

I got on the freeway where the speed limit is 65. I set my cruise control on 63 and stayed the slowest lane. On my 20 mile drive, I was able to use my regen well enough that I barely used my brakes even by the time I got home.

And this is my odometer reading when I got home.

Miles on this tank of gas : 616
My MPG for those miles: 56.1

I am truly impressed with this car. I think I may push it a bit to 620 before I fill up tomorrow. So I can confidently say this car can do 620 miles on a tank of gas. But when I fill up tomorrow, I will do some calculations to see what are my real life numbers compared to what the car says.

I would like to start a thread. How many miles are people getting on a full tank of gas? I want to be able to say I got 620 miles averaging 56.1 mpg. That is beating the estimated figures published by Honda. That is really amazing.

 

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This is my final results from my test on this tank of gas.

TOTAL miles on this tank of gas : 626.5 miles driven with DTE of 6 still showing.
My MPG for those miles: 56.1
Driving style: 50/50 highway and local streets. Speed limit on my way to work is 65mph. My highest speed on this tank of gas was about 72mph. But most often, I drive with cruise control somewhere between 60mph to 65mph. A/C was rarely used throughout this period. I will say I used the a/c only for about 100 miles on this whole tank of gas.

From the time the FUEL LOW light came on, I calculated I drove 46 miles before filling up right now.


I was done trying to push the car as I am glad with the 626 miles from this tank of gas. I filled up for $17.50 and it took 11.756 gallons. I made sure not to overfill. The tank is 12.8. So, I say I must have been close to truly running out of fuel.
 

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I finally installed my rear spoiler today at home. The car is dirty, so I will have to wash it and maybe take better pictures. But I like the way it came out. I waxed and coated the spoiler with what I have at home before installing it.

It was really hard trying to align it to make sure it fits perfectly. The tape is very powerful. I installed it at first and one side was not proportional to the other side. So, I had to take it off and it was no joke getting that thing off.

In that process, I lost about half of the 3m tape you see here. But I finally aligned it again with what was left and pressed hard on it and just stayed pressing on the whole spoiler for like 5 minutes on each spot. Now it is glued unto that car. I hope it does not come off on a spirited road trip someday.

Well, I wrapped my gas door with carbon fiber vinyl. It looks good, but I may change it for one that is a bit glossy like my spoiler.







 

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It will be interesting to see if (or how much) the new rear spoiler eats into your mpg.

Given that the 2021 Touring Hybrid's EPA rating is quite a bit worse than the non-Tourings (due to the 2021 Touring Hybrid using 19" non-aero wheels, and also without low-rolling resistance tires), I think these cars are pretty sensitive to moderate changes in aerodynamics. I don't think the spoiler will have nearly as much impact as the 19" wheels do, but it might be enough to notice....
 

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It will be interesting to see if (or how much) the new rear spoiler eats into your mpg.

Given that the 2021 Touring Hybrid's EPA rating is quite a bit worse than the non-Tourings (due to the 2021 Touring Hybrid using 19" non-aero wheels, and also without low-rolling resistance tires), I think these cars are pretty sensitive to moderate changes in aerodynamics. I don't think the spoiler will have nearly as much impact as the 19" wheels do, but it might be enough to notice....
That is very interesting you mentioned that because during this my run to see the maximum miles I can get from this tank of gas, is when I installed my spare tire on my Hybrid. II did notice a sudden drop in mpp by like 3mpg. I think I was often getting about 57 until I installed the spare tire and I think that added some weight and my mpg went down to 53/54. I quickly noticed that and said I will try to drive conservatively and using regen as best as possible to see if I can keep it at 53 or improve it and get it higher. Glad I could manage that till the 626 miles and was able to get it to 56.1mpg.

You have a good point about this spoiler. I am thinking I will drive this tank again with a goal of getting another 626 or more. One thing to note is that as soon as my FUEL LOW light came on, I calculated that I drove 46 miles more. That is a good mental note for me to take.

I will try to drive this tank till empty to see what I get out of it. During this run, I never went above 72mph and my traveling was 50/50 (city/highway) and all the roads here are pretty much flat.

I really like this spoiler. I waxed and coated it before installing it. It added a little more gloss to it. I hope it holds up. If I get tired of it, I can easily take it off. I love any modification on my car that is temporal and can be easily reversed back to stock. So that if I do not like it, I can easily take it off and keep my stock look back.
 

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I finally installed my rear spoiler today at home. The car is dirty, so I will have to wash it and maybe take better pictures. But I like the way it came out. I waxed and coated the spoiler with what I have at home before installing it.

It was really hard trying to align it to make sure it fits perfectly. The tape is very powerful. I installed it at first and one side was not proportional to the other side. So, I had to take it off and it was no joke getting that thing off.

In that process, I lost about half of the 3m tape you see here. But I finally aligned it again with what was left and pressed hard on it and just stayed pressing on the whole spoiler for like 5 minutes on each spot. Now it is glued unto that car. I hope it does not come off on a spirited road trip someday.

Well, I wrapped my gas door with carbon fiber vinyl. It looks good, but I may change it for one that is a bit glossy like my spoiler.






How much will the spoiler lower your mpg by on the highway?

That is very interesting you mentioned that because during this my run to see the maximum miles I can get from this tank of gas, is when I installed my spare tire on my Hybrid. II did notice a sudden drop in mpp by like 3mpg. I think I was often getting about 57 until I installed the spare tire and I think that added some weight and my mpg went down to 53/54. I quickly noticed that and said I will try to drive conservatively and using regen as best as possible to see if I can keep it at 53 or improve it and get it higher. Glad I could manage that till the 626 miles and was able to get it to 56.1mpg.

You have a good point about this spoiler. I am thinking I will drive this tank again with a goal of getting another 626 or more. One thing to note is that as soon as my FUEL LOW light came on, I calculated that I drove 46 miles more. That is a good mental note for me to take.

I will try to drive this tank till empty to see what I get out of it. During this run, I never went above 72mph and my traveling was 50/50 (city/highway) and all the roads here are pretty much flat.

I really like this spoiler. I waxed and coated it before installing it. It added a little more gloss to it. I hope it holds up. If I get tired of it, I can easily take it off. I love any modification on my car that is temporal and can be easily reversed back to stock. So that if I do not like it, I can easily take it off and keep my stock look back.
Low fuel indicator is factory set to come on with 1.6 gallons or 6.2Liters of fuel left as per the manual.
Tons of great data in the manual.
I challenge you to take the time to go through it.
You seem very detailed, I imagine you would enjoy it.
Happy hybriding.
 

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How much will the spoiler lower your mpg by on the highway?
I don't know yet, since I have not taken the car on the highway yet with this spoiler. But I am hoping the spoiler would not drop my mpg since it is truly paperweight, compared to the weight of the spare tire and its accessories that I put on.

Well, since this new fillup, I have driven 67 miles so far and that is only on local streets where the highest posted speed limit is 45. My MPG so far as of today is 63mpg.

I hope to drive this tank of gas as my last to see the most miles I can get from this tank of gas so as to compare with my last tank of gas. No use of ac so far.

Low fuel indicator is factory set to come on with 1.6 gallons or 6.2Liters of fuel left as per the manual.
Tons of great data in the manual.
I challenge you to take the time to go through it.
You seem very detailed, I imagine you would enjoy it.
Happy hybriding.
Thanks for this info. I have been reading the manual online sections by sections. I will try to find this particular information you mentioned.

Thanks again and Happy Hybriding indeed because I am enjoying learning how to drive this car to try and get the most miles I can out of it.

My next target is to find out the most miles I would get on a road trip where I would be driving 75mph to 80mph for most of the trip and will not fill up until I almost runout of gas.

Right now, I know if I drive as normal as possible around town and even including the days I go to work, I am guaranteed to get above 600 miles to a tank of gas.

Next will be to find out what I get on a road trip from a tank of gas. Where I will not fillup until I almost run out of gas. And then I record that info.
 
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