[jeddack]

Hi,

I've searched and read various other threads on rattles, but haven't found what I'm looking for - service bulletins related to rattles.

My question is: Are there any service bulletins with which I can arm myself before going into the dealer?

I have a 2006 EX VT 6MT no-nav sedan I bought at the tail end of 2006.

I had a bad glove box rattle at 5k which the dealer resolved.

At around 12k I started really noticing itinerant rattles. They came and went depending on the quality of the road, speed and outside temperature. The dealer was unable to reproduce/isolate these when I brought it in at that time. In fact they focused on the fact that the sun visor was not snapped in, which had nothing to do with anything. As soon as I drove away from the dealer, the rattles started again, worse. However given a brutal work schedule I just haven't had the bandwidth to pursue it.

Now at 18k the rattles have spread throughout the entire front of the car, mainly in the dash. I have removed every personal belonging that could contribute. The rattles primarily occur between 20 and 50 mph, on any but the most perfect pavement, and do still seem related to outside temperature e.g don't occur all the time. When they do occur, however, they are teeth-gnashing annoying.

Last week I was driving around this cute gal in Golden Gate park in San Francisco, admiring the day. Far from enjoying my "new" car, she was biting her tongue not to say it was a POS due to the rattles. I found this... vexing.

To be honest this has lessened my enjoyment of the car to such an extent that I am considering selling it and getting a Mustang GT. I don't really want a Mustang, or would have bought one in the first place. I really want an Accord that doesn't rattle like a poorly loaded junk trunk. At least I have an expectation that a Mustang will rattle like this. It's just unacceptable that a top-of-the-line "high quality" Honda sedan will do this. I'm extremely disappointed with Honda.

I am taking it into the dealer tomorrow. I plan to drive it around the dealer's area until I can find a stretch of road that repros the issue. I will of course remove everything thing from that car that could give another false "here's your problem, you have all these loose marbles in here so we'll stop looking now" kind of response.

If someone can provide me some written ammo I would greatly appreciate it.

Thanks...

 

[greg-ster]

When tracking down rattles, you have to be specific in noting where they are coming from. Also, remember that sound travels, making them appear to come from places other than their origin.

For example, over the past 2 weeks, my car's developed a rattle that is really vague in where it sounds like its coming from. It turned out to be the dashboard air vent closest to the driver's door; touch it and the rattle is gone...i have no idea how to fix this one permanently.

For rattles, you really are better off trying to isolate and fix them on your own. If they're due to a broken part, then you approach the dealer.

Good luck! :thmsup:

 

[psycho-]

jeddack- Welcome to my life

it drives great, the engine is great, handling is acceptable, space is nice...but it's these little cheap things and the incessant rattling that really gets me..

.....it's a PITA!

 

[thoots]

Now at 18k the rattles have spread throughout the entire front of the car, mainly in the dash. I have removed every personal belonging that could contribute. The rattles primarily occur between 20 and 50 mpg, on any but the most perfect pavement, and do still seem related to outside temperature e.g don't occur all the time. When they do occur, however, they are teeth-gnashing annoying.

To be honest this has lessened my enjoyment of the car to such an extent that I am considering selling it and getting a Mustang GT. I don't really want a Mustang, or would have bought one in the first place. I really want an Accord that doesn't rattle like a poorly loaded junk trunk. At least I have an expectation that a Mustang will rattle like this. It's just unacceptable that a top-of-the-line "high quality" Honda sedan will do this. I'm extremely disappointed with Honda.

Well, if you've come across my posts regarding my 2004 EX-L coupe rattletrap, you know what my solution was: Bail out, eat a couple grand of negative equity, and vow to never, ever touch another Honda so long as I live.

At 20,000 miles, my Accord was as bad as you describe, and worse -- there virtually wasn't ONE THING that didn't rattle CONSTANTLY in that interior. And, I had several huge "STRUCTURAL" rattles -- like the passenger door that sounded like it was going to fall right off the car at any moment. And the trunk and the whole rear of the car was always klunking around in some manner.

Can your dealer solve these rattles? Mine couldn't. I spent most of two years of my life doing very little but trying to track down and solve the rattles in that car. THIS IS NOT WHAT THIS 50-YEAR-OLD GUY EXPECTS TO DO WITH A $25,000 "NEW" CAR.

What would it have taken to fix my car? Rip out the entire interior, and put in a new one. Rip off both doors, and properly hang new doors on the thing. Weld the trunk, weld the doors, weld the sides of the car, weld everything that can possibly be welded together. And, who knows if any of that would even help. I doubt it.

Believe it or not, I think Honda build quality is abominable. I will NEVER, EVER get over how pissed off I am about signing up for years of payments on something that wound up being such an utter pile of junk. Unfortunately "rattletrap piece of junk" isn't something you can get any satisfaction from any "lemon laws" -- it's a pile of JUNK, and you are STUCK with it.

What gets me, and just pisses me off even MORE, is how plenty of people report that they have no rattles at all, in their similar models. Well, to me, either these people are DEAF, or they are OBLIVIOUS, or, at the very least, Honda "quality control" is HORRIFYINGLY poor.

So, I finally bailed out, purchased a car with true quality built into it -- the new-generation Camry -- and now some sucker who wasn't paying enough attention probably overpaid the dealer and drove off in my POS rattletrap Accord.

I can't really offer any advice other than "run for your life and bail out." As I mentioned above, I spent virtually every spare hour I had for nearly a couple of years fighting my rattles. While I made a bit of progress on some, it always just uncovered more and more rattles -- it was absolutely, utterly hopeless.

We'll see how it goes with the Camry, but so far, it is several orders of magnitude quieter than the Accord ever was. I'm very happy with its so far, as it is truly tight and silent like I expect a $25,000 - $30,000 car to be.

I'm further disheartened, but not really surprised, to hear that Honda continues to churn out absolute rattletraps. Again, I sure won't be risking the kind of dough it takes to buy a new car on a Honda ever again -- "poor build quality" just isn't something that can be "fixed."

I don't know if this helps or not, but if you want a solution to your rattles, this is the only solution that ever worked for me. Bail out, take the hit, and chalk it up to a life lesson learned the hard way.

 

[jeddack]

Greg-ster,

Thanks for the reponse but I have to say that's really not helpful.

EDIT: Unless you are saying that "the dealer will make rattles worse, not better"... in which case, point taken and I should probably sell the car.

>When tracking down rattles, you have to be specific in noting where they
>are coming from.

As I noted, these rattles are coming from throughout the entire front of the car and getting worse. This suggests a systemic problem.

If I could easily isolate these rattles, as with the glove box, believe me, I would never have taken up anyone's time on this forum with this issue.

>For rattles, you really are better off trying to isolate and fix them on your own.

I would agree with you if this were a five year old car, or even outside the bumper-to-bumper warranty. However it's less than a year old. I'm still supposed to be on the d*mn honeymoon, raving about what a great car it is, not being annoyed or embarrassed by it.

>If they're due to a broken part, then you approach the dealer.

I completely disagree. (EDIT: unless your point is that the dealer will make things worse.) Honda via the dealer should set the car right. Rattles are an indicator of hard use and/or poor build quality. I have been pretty mellow with this car, almost 80% highway miles at 65, only the occasional rev to 6k at a freeway on ramp. I'm not jumping my car through flaming walls of fire.

Absent hard use, a lot of rattles are an indicator of poor build quality. A customer who drops $25-$30 grand for a top of the line sedan, from a build maker who markets itself based on quality and reliability, should not have to deal with something that makes him regret buying the car on a daily basis.

The expectation with this car - any new car - is that it will be free from rattles. If this can't be accomplished, if this issue is representative of Honda's build quality or attitude, believe me, this is the last Honda product I ever buy.

Back to point, I was looking for anything *in print* that I can use at the Honda dealership.

 

[BenjiBoy650]

You are going to find out real quick that the dealer will create EVEN MORE rattles ripping apart your interior trying to find your ORIGINAL rattle...if they even bother to pay any attention to you.

Honda's build quality has dropped significantly. It's worse than GM I believe. You take a close look at Honda's on the road, most of them have maligned doors, poor panel gaps, multitude of rattles, I just saw a 6th gen today with taillights that didn't line up. Mine didn't either until I took an hour adjusting the latch and stoppers.

 

[GRdotNet]

You have no idea how depressng it was to get a Ford Taurus rental car during my trip two weeks ago which didn't rattle at all, and then coming home and going for a ride in my Accord. Sure the Accord is more comfortable and more logically laid out that the Taurus, but it's also significantly more expensive than this specimen of Ford (I had an LX model).

Sorry guys, just venting... The car is a ton of fun to wind up, just kind of upset. To the OP, I think I have the same problem as you, except mine's an 07. I'm having trouble with the rear deck, the front two doors (window rattles it appears), the glovebox, and something inside the steering column.

 

[Half-Breed]

Ooooooohhhhhh, crap. aranoid:
I just bought this '06 V6 coupe. From what's being said in here, sounds like I better trade it in before I put anymore mileage on it.
But...hold up now.
Even though I got heated seats and an AT, doesn't mean I'm a stoggy old man that's gonna b!tch because the wood grain isn't imported oak. So are these rattles annoying to the point where someone that's gonna slap on a Comptech exhaust and V2 intake is going to hear?

 

[greg-ster]

To avoid this turning into a Honda bashing thread, i'll say this:

Even though my car does some wierd things, was a borderline lemon, has a dashboard vent that buzzes and gets schizophrenic gas mileage, I like it and would never buy a GM product.

How's that for Honda Fanboyism?

 

[Half-Breed]

To avoid this turning into a Honda bashing thread, i'll say this:

Even though my car does some wierd things, was a borderline lemon, has a dashboard vent that buzzes and gets schizophrenic gas mileage, I like it and would never buy a GM product.

How's that for Honda Fanboyism?

As long as you are not making flamboyent, unfounded, over-the-top claims; it's not Honda "bashing". I would rather hear about what is going on; I can get the "Honda is the best" spill from the dealers.

 

[chanke4252]

Well, in my experience, lack of rattles aren't an indicator of build quality (especially mechanical), and the presence rattles isn't always an indication of poor overall quality. Almost all of the rattles that people experience in this forum can be attributed to relatively unimportant portions of the car that do not impact it's ability to run or function. Sure, they are annoying as hell, but given the fact that audis and volkswagons are pretty much rattle-free throughought their life, yet their reliability is total garbage past a couple years, I no longer assume that lack of extra noise is representative of overall quality. I also can't say that rattles and noises mean that a car is built badly due to the fact that my old honda and toyota made noises unwanted noises (though not quite as much as my 06) as well, but aside from those noises, they had almost no problems at all. I'm not saying that my experiences are representative of everyone else's, or that no cars with rattles are built worse overall, but that there is a definite difference between mechanical build quality and a rattle in the windows or ceiling.

I do agree, however, that given the amount of money that we have paid for our cars that they should not rattle as much as they do. All this means to me, however, is that they chose to skimp on a few screws, more rigid plastics, and a few pieces of insulation/padding rather than on the guts of the vehicle. I'll gladly attempt to fix them myself, enjoy the drive of the vehicle, and not have to worry about something getting borked and leaving me stranded versus being rattle free but prone to frequent breakdowns or driving like a 12,000 pound tank.

That's just me, though I definately understand the madness that rattles can bring on when paying this much for a car, so those of you with rattles have my sympathy.

GRDotNet, I had a rattle from the rear that I couldn't pinpoint for a while, it turned out it was coming from a speaker cover. I haven't had time to try to fix it yet though as I just discovered its location last thursday.

 

[Half-Breed]

Last week I was driving around this cute gal in Golden Gate park in San Francisco, admiring the day. Far from enjoying my "new" car, she was biting her tongue not to say it was a POS due to the rattles. I found this... vexing.

Rollin' in da bucket tryin' to be fly for this hottie, cause I'm the man.
Then my ride started making noise like a tin can :note:

 

[saxdogg]

As sad as it may be, I wonder if it's American build quality vs. Japanese workers? The Japanese are far more prideful of their work, whereas our workers are more worried about union benefits and could care less what kind of product they put out. Hmmm....sorry for the soapbox.


JP

 

[thoots]

I do agree, however, that given the amount of money that we have paid for our cars that they should not rattle as much as they do. All this means to me, however, is that they chose to skimp on a few screws, more rigid plastics, and a few pieces of insulation/padding rather than on the guts of the vehicle. I'll gladly attempt to fix them myself, enjoy the drive of the vehicle, and not have to worry about something getting borked and leaving me stranded versus being rattle free but prone to frequent breakdowns or driving like a 12,000 pound tank.

The thing to comprehend here is that those of us who have gotten stuck with rattletrap pieces of junk are probably otherwise VERY happy with our Accords. I was -- my EX-L coupe was virtually EXACTLY what I wanted in a car. And, yes, the powertrain was excellent, and would probably have been very reliable. But, the order of magnitude of the rattling seems to be beyond the imagination of most folks who aren't experiencing these rattles -- you just can't believe the abject HOPELESSNESS you get when you've worked and you've worked and you've worked on them, you've had the car to the dealer numerous times to work on them, and if you've made any progress at all, you just realize that you've solved virtually "one in a thousand" of things that are rattling in the interior and exterior.

I virtually couldn't drive one mile -- heck, I couldn't drive ONE BLOCK, or even GET OUT OF THE DRIVEWAY, without, truly, "CONSTANT" rattling. Virtually "hundreds of rattles per block," or "thousands of rattles during the drive to the office." Again, it's like every little bit of the dashboard was rattling, stuff on the passenger side of the car was rattling, something in the back seat area of the car was rattling, the trunk area was rattling -- it was beyond fixing, either by myself OR the dealer.

I would add to that, though, the two other things that helped me make the decision to bail out of my EX-L coupe. One was the seemingly virtual absence of any form of "rear suspension" -- it was like I was riding on steel-rimmed wood wagon wheels back there. And I think that had plenty to do with the tendency to rattle -- the car was virtually being beaten to a pulp by the firm suspension. About a week before I traded the thing in, I actually tried one cheapie solution to that -- I bought a couple of 25-pound weights and put them in the trunk over the rear axle:

The third thing that got me was how, after only 20,000 miles, I had several problems with the interior of the car. I had the infamous "lights go out in the HVAC/Stereo display panel," so here I was with this dang near "new" car, and this utter piece of junk goes out on me, so they have to saw into my dashboard which will REALLY make it rattle more and more. Though they did the job with apparent care, the dashboard DID rattle more after that. Then there was the "loosey goosey driver seat," which can only be "poor material quality," as the seat virtually chewed away at the rails it was mounted on, and then the seat leather started wearing apart at the seams -- again, all within only 20,000 miles. And if you've read what I've written over the years here, you'll remember that I took fabulous care of my car, I drove it with great care, and so taking as good care of a car that anyone possibly could, I've got all of these interior problems?

I got all of those issues fixed, probably to the tune of about $2,500 of warranty work. Or, rather, the sucker who wound up with my car will wind up paying that kind of dough to fix these things when they go out within another 20,000 miles. That's what utterly got me -- sure, the mechanicals might be more reliable than the average domestic car's would be, but I would wind up paying AS MUCH IF NOT MORE than fighting with the mechanicals to keep the interior of the car in decent shape.

So, that's the size of things that led me to bail out of the thing -- the rattles which were utterly impossible to fix, the stiff rear suspension that probably helped promote such rattling, and how the interior was virtually falling apart within just 20,000 miles. With several years of payments to make, and my usual intent to drive the car for many years after I've paid it off, I couldn't even stand to make one more payment on the thing.

Jeddack nailed it: to wind up getting stuck with problems like these from a "maker who markets itself based on quality and reliability," it's just abominable. I just LAUGH at the Honda ads on TV anymore. Let me tell you, in all my life I have bought exactly ONE car from the "domestic" brands -- the rest have been nothing but Toyotas and two Hondas that turned out the be the biggest rattletraps I've ever seen (and heard) -- and I'll buy a domestic brand before I'd touch another Honda again. And, yes, I had a last-generation CRX Si years ago -- rattles galore, including a MONUMENTAL one made by the hatch over any major bump, and the big reason I finally bailed out of that was because the stuffing was literally falling out of the seats at around 50,000 miles. Golly, sounds familiar, eh?

Quoth the raven: NEVERMORE.

 

[Half-Breed]

The thing to comprehend here is that those of us who have gotten stuck with rattletrap pieces of junk are probably otherwise VERY happy with our Accords. I was -- my EX-L coupe was virtually EXACTLY what I wanted in a car. And, yes, the powertrain was excellent, and would probably have been very reliable. But, the order of magnitude of the rattling seems to be beyond the imagination of most folks who aren't experiencing these rattles -- you just can't believe the abject HOPELESSNESS you get when you've worked and you've worked and you've worked on them, you've had the car to the dealer numerous times to work on them, and if you've made any progress at all, you just realize that you've solved virtually "one in a thousand" of things that are rattling in the interior and exterior.

I virtually couldn't drive one mile -- heck, I couldn't drive ONE BLOCK, or even GET OUT OF THE DRIVEWAY, without, truly, "CONSTANT" rattling. Virtually "hundreds of rattles per block," or "thousands of rattles during the drive to the office." Again, it's like every little bit of the dashboard was rattling, stuff on the passenger side of the car was rattling, something in the back seat area of the car was rattling, the trunk area was rattling -- it was beyond fixing, either by myself OR the dealer.

I would add to that, though, the two other things that helped me make the decision to bail out of my EX-L coupe. One was the seemingly virtual absence of any form of "rear suspension" -- it was like I was riding on steel-rimmed wood wagon wheels back there. And I think that had plenty to do with the tendency to rattle -- the car was virtually being beaten to a pulp by the firm suspension. About a week before I traded the thing in, I actually tried one cheapie solution to that -- I bought a couple of 25-pound weights and put them in the trunk over the rear axle:

The third thing that got me was how, after only 20,000 miles, I had several problems with the interior of the car. I had the infamous "lights go out in the HVAC/Stereo display panel," so here I was with this dang near "new" car, and this utter piece of junk goes out on me, so they have to saw into my dashboard which will REALLY make it rattle more and more. Though they did the job with apparent care, the dashboard DID rattle more after that. Then there was the "loosey goosey driver seat," which can only be "poor material quality," as the seat virtually chewed away at the rails it was mounted on, and then the seat leather started wearing apart at the seams -- again, all within only 20,000 miles. And if you've read what I've written over the years here, you'll remember that I took fabulous care of my car, I drove it with great care, and so taking as good care of a car that anyone possibly could, I've got all of these interior problems?

I got all of those issues fixed, probably to the tune of about $2,500 of warranty work. Or, rather, the sucker who wound up with my car will wind up paying that kind of dough to fix these things when they go out within another 20,000 miles. That's what utterly got me -- sure, the mechanicals might be more reliable than the average domestic car's would be, but I would wind up paying AS MUCH IF NOT MORE than fighting with the mechanicals to keep the interior of the car in decent shape.

So, that's the size of things that led me to bail out of the thing -- the rattles which were utterly impossible to fix, the stiff rear suspension that probably helped promote such rattling, and how the interior was virtually falling apart within just 20,000 miles. With several years of payments to make, and my usual intent to drive the car for many years after I've paid it off, I couldn't even stand to make one more payment on the thing.

Jeddack nailed it: to wind up getting stuck with problems like these from a "maker who markets itself based on quality and reliability," it's just abominable. I just LAUGH at the Honda ads on TV anymore. Let me tell you, in all my life I have bought exactly ONE car from the "domestic" brands -- the rest have been nothing but Toyotas and two Hondas that turned out the be the biggest rattletraps I've ever seen (and heard) -- and I'll buy a domestic brand before I'd touch another Honda again. And, yes, I had a last-generation CRX Si years ago -- rattles galore, including a MONUMENTAL one made by the hatch over any major bump, and the big reason I finally bailed out of that was because the stuffing was literally falling out of the seats at around 50,000 miles. Golly, sounds familiar, eh?

Quoth the raven: NEVERMORE.

So, how do you really feel about the rattles?
Answer this then: '06 V6 AT coupe @ 2400 miles, no rattles yet, do I bail or what?

 

[mwmcginn]

So, how do you really feel about the rattles?
Answer this then: '06 V6 AT coupe @ 2400 miles, no rattles yet, do I bail or what?

0 rattles in mine. I have an 06 sedan. I cant believe how good this car is so far. The only complaint I have is my fault. I didnt get a manual. If I fixed that, then my wifes only complaint would be I didnt get an auto.


If I were you, I would take it to the dealer, they ought to at least have a chance to fix it. I would take the service manager on a ride with you when you drop it off and when you pick it up.

 

[jeddack]

I took it to the dealer today. Prior to going I cleaned out every personal belonging from sunglasses to the last dime in the armrest coin holder. Every container and cubbyhole including glove box was empty, visors snapped in, unused seat belts properly secured. I was able to repro two enormous rattles on a road right outside the dealer before bringing it in.

The dealership was very interested in the rattles. Then again, they are pricey and you are paying for this interest... but at least it is there. On drop off I took a test drive with a tech. I sat in the back seat to avoid squashing any rattles or blocking the sound. I could clearly hear them in the back seat, and I have plenty of hearing loss from the Army. The tech heard them also. They are now "official" rattles and the dealer is going to work them, under warranty. Whew.

To be clear, I'm not "Honda bashing." I'm "Honda rattle bashing." The EX V6 6MT sedan (in graphite pearl) was, and is the best combination of 4 door performance/looks/interior sophistication/value/fuel efficiency/fun (6MT) out there (although I'll admit handling is kinda boaty). I took plenty of time ( > 1 year) searching for a car and tried just about everything in this price segment, and one segment up and down... MazdaSpeed 6, Altima, (used) BMW 540i, Mustang (ok, it's a coupe), you name it I'm pretty sure I tried it. Imagine my disappointment that all that due diligence is compromised by some loose screws or whatever.

My previous car was a 1996 Mazda Protege I bought new. Despite 3 fender benders/accidents over the years, and 180k miles on it, the interior never once rattled. Took about 17 seconds to get to 60mph, but solid as heck.

Chanke4252, I appreciate your point re the overall value of the car. However I don't think it's an either/or proposition. I want and expect reliability AND no rattles... like the Mazda for which I paid about half the amount of the Accord. I don't think that's unreasonable. Interior build quality is still part of build quality.

These rattles are the automotive equivalent of a bad toothache... spreading from tooth to tooth. At some point it becomes all you can think about. No matter how great the rest of the body might be, at some point the pain either gets fixed or the tooth/teeth gotta go. (Although I guess the exact analogy would be, uh, to switch bodies.)

So... we'll see how it goes. My take is that these rattles may be fixed, but a number of more subtle/intermittent rattles will take their place and grow to horrowshow level. Or not.

Half-Breed... I can't give you guidance. My perspective is skewed at the moment. I'm not sure yet my situation is as hopeless as thoots apparently was, or is representative of what you will encounter. Your mileage may vary. Maybe I'm in a state of denial. It's not a good prognostic indicator, that's for sure. My question is... what's your alternative?

Statistically speaking out of the tens or hundreds of thousands of Accords out there (or Camrys, or BMW 3-series, or Mazda 6s, or...), some tiny percentage are going to have issues. I just never thought that percentage would include me... now it seems like a very big percentage indeed.

From a game theory perspective, if you bail now you *will* take a big initial depreciation hit. If you hold tight you *might* have a rattle issue, and it *might* be significant. You *might* also have a rattle issue if you get a different car. The optimum course seems to be stay put and hope for the best.

I will say.. coupe with AT?!! What were you thinking? Oh, yeah.... wife. "If momma ain't happy, ain't nobody happy" as I have so often heard.

 

[zroger73]

Reading all these posts about rattles is about as disconcerting as the rattles themselves. Since I purchased mine about 4 months ago, it has rattled since day one - more so than my '99 Buick Regal did after 7 years and just over 100,000 (ocassionally hard) miles. I love EVERYTHING about this car except for the rattles. I don't expect bank-vault silent - I realize I didn't purchase a Lexus LS460, but my father's '97 Ford Ranger with over 150K has not a single rattle. It's not smooth and it's not quiet, but a rattle-free interior is a testament to this truck's impressive reliability. Only tires and brakes so far in it's 150K+ miles journey so far. The MAIN reason I bought my first "Japanese" car was the impression they were more solid than domestics. I've not found this to be true. As other poster's have mentioned, I'm not going to die over this. However, it'll be my last Honda Accord purchase unless some dramatic changes in interior noise control are made.

 

[Conundrum]

I have 1 rattle in mine now :thumbsdow but it doesn't bother me much...

I think I've tracked it down to the passenger window, and its only when the car is cold and been in the garage for a while. Once she is out in the sun it basically goes away (thankfully). It also seems to go away if I lower the window by about an inch. I'm going to try treating the rubber seal behind the top of the window, and hopfully that should fix it.

If its not that, then its probably got to do with my short shifter install...which means I might have to take her apart again. :headbash:

 

[ncelk]

It is obviously hit and miss with rattles..............

Our 04 Accord had a small window rattle and that was it. I could live with it.

Our Pilot is rattle free...............

Our 06 Ody (the most expensive vehicle I have ever bought) which has 20k on it, sounds like it has about 300k on it.

You guys want rattles, you should ride in our van.

I don't drive it often and my wife turns the radio up, so we have left them alone to this point. But I agree it is frustrating.

I sold a 93 Civic couple for one reason only-you guessed it-rattles.

But, most of ours have been pretty rattle free to this point. But I sympathize with you on the annoyance of the rattles.