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Can you guys post pics of your OEM LED low-beam pattern at 25' away from a wall.
Looking to see how sharp the cut-off should be with our 10gen projectors.

Thanks.
 
Can you guys post pics of your OEM LED low-beam pattern at 25' away from a wall.
Looking to see how sharp the cut-off should be with our 10gen projectors.

Thanks.
No projectors in our cars, it's an LED reflector housing. The cutoff is not sharp at all, there's a decent amount of glare from these headlights.
 
No projectors in our cars, it's an LED reflector housing. The cutoff is not sharp at all, there's a decent amount of glare from these headlights.
I disagree, i feel like the cut off pretty good. Correct they are not projectors but still provide very good visibility for me and i dont feel like there is a glare


Best I can do for ya right now OP. Not sure how far away i was but this is just from me exiting the garage at work few days ago

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I disagree, i feel like the cut off pretty good. Correct theybare not projectors but still provide very good visibility for me

** This is not my photo, just one i found on youtube. Also i do not know how far away from the wall he is **


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The cutoff looks good when close, but the further away the more light spread above the cutoff there is.
 
No projectors in our cars, it's an LED reflector housing. The cutoff is not sharp at all, there's a decent amount of glare from these headlights.
Ahh. Thanks. I didn't realize they are reflectors. That resets my expectations.
But agreed; cutoff is not sharp at all.

Aren't these better than HID? I test drove the new Mazda 6 and Camry and the lights on the Accord seem to spread further and wider than both.


I thought it was LED > HID > Halogen

Generally speaking. HID conversion kits (55W in projectors) > OEM HID (35W in projectors) > LED > Halogen.
LEDs are catching up to factory HIDs. For example, the Morimoto 2Stroke 2.0 LEDs seem very promising. Lots of youtube videos on this topic.

Surprisingly, not many HID/projector aftermarket housings for the Accords.
 
Generally speaking. HID conversion kits (55W in projectors) > OEM HID (35W in projectors) > LED > Halogen.
LEDs are catching up to factory HIDs. For example, the Morimoto 2Stroke 2.0 LEDs seem very promising. Lots of youtube videos on this topic.

Surprisingly, not many HID/projector aftermarket housings for the Accords.

Interesting. My Accord LEDs absolutely destroy my factory 35w HID projectors in my ford focus ST. The Accord lights are brighter, shine further and wider. I guess the cut off is better on the HIDs, but I don't see the point of that as long as the Accord lights don't blind anyone.
 
Agreed, the cutoff is not sharp at all, but it's way better than the traditional halogen reflector.

Has anyone compared the output to the Acura jewel eye headlights? They have a similar design, but I wonder if the performance on the Acura headlights are better.
 
After driving a new Camry with HID lights, the light spread seems more even on the Camry but I still feel like the Accord lights are brighter and shine further.


Again, what are the benefits of a sharp cut off if it's not blinding people?
 
After driving a new Camry with HID lights, the light spread seems more even on the Camry but I still feel like the Accord lights are brighter and shine further.


Again, what are the benefits of a sharp cut off if it's not blinding people?


I didn’t know Camry uses HID still? I thought it also was converted to LED like the Corolla.


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Agreed, the cutoff is not sharp at all, but it's way better than the traditional halogen reflector.

Has anyone compared the output to the Acura jewel eye headlights? They have a similar design, but I wonder if the performance on the Acura headlights are better.
Here are some pics to compare the accord touring to the RDX adv
 

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Agreed, the cutoff is not sharp at all, but it's way better than the traditional halogen reflector.

Has anyone compared the output to the Acura jewel eye headlights? They have a similar design, but I wonder if the performance on the Acura headlights are better.
Here are some pics to compare the accord touring to the RDX adv
Maybe something is up with one of your headlights or youre on uneven ground compared to the other vehicle.

I ppsted how mine looked and my pic was at least same distance as yours if not further. Cut off was crisp
 
No projectors in our cars, it's an LED reflector housing. The cutoff is not sharp at all, there's a decent amount of glare from these headlights.
I agree. I was in front of a 2018 Accord the other night, and its headlights were blasting my rearview mirror the entire time. The two inner LED reflectors on each headlight appeared to be pointing right at my mirror, and almost looked like high beams. The other 4 LED reflectors in each headlight looked normal, so I'm guessing those inner reflectors are dedicated to the "squirrel spotters" which is why they were shining directly into my mirror (thank goodness for auto-dimming mirrors...).

The 10G Accord isn't the only newer car that does that, in my experience. The new Camry and Altima LED projector headlights produce a lot of glare directly above the cutoff, as well. It's not that bad towards oncoming traffic, but it's definitely annoying when one is traveling behind you.

It seems to be an LED thing, as I've never noticed the "squirrel spotters" of halogen or HID headlights shining directly into my rearview mirror unless they belonged to a taller vehicle like a truck, minivan, or SUV. These new cars with LED headlights are almost more offensive than trucks these days. I blame the IIHS and their headlight testing. I think manufacturers are aiming headlights a bit above spec just to try and make their headlight performance seem better. I know that beginning with the 9th gen, Honda started aiming the Accord's headlights pretty much horizontal when there's supposed to be a gradual drop in the beam (spec is 2 inches of drop every 25 feet). I had to lower the headlight aim in both my 2014 and my 2017 because they were aimed obnoxiously high from the factory. From what I've seen, the 10G is continuing that tradition.
 
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Is the cutoff supposed to be a good thing? I hate it in my 9th gen. I dropped in Beamtech LEDs and I'm thinking I'll go back to the stock because the visibility is actually worse with the sharp cutoff.

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I agree. I was in front of a 2018 Accord the other night, and its headlights were blasting my rearview mirror the entire time. The two inner LED reflectors on each headlight appeared to be pointing right at my mirror, and almost looked like high beams. The other 4 LED reflectors in each headlight looked normal, so I'm guessing those inner reflectors are dedicated to the "squirrel spotters" which is why they were shining directly into my mirror (thank goodness for auto-dimming mirrors...)
If all 6 were on then the idiot had his high beams on. The two inner ones closest to the center of the car are the high beams on the touring models with the full LED headlights.

Sadly I think the problem is a lot of people having zero concept of how their car works as daily I see easily 10 cars that either A) are driving with high beams on 2) driving with NO lights on because they mistake the light given off by the DRL as meaning the headlights are on.

It’s so bad, at least where I am that I honestly wish it was mandated that every single car have auto headlights where the only option is off or on/auto and if the car senses it’s night and the lights are off but you are driving it gives you an audible warning and notice. Same for high beams where if you leave them on for longer than a few minutes a notice comes up saying they are on and if you ignore it the car disables them. If you click ok then it leaves them as is.
 
If all 6 were on then the idiot had his high beams on. The two inner ones closest to the center of the car are the high beams on the touring models with the full LED headlights.

Sadly I think the problem is a lot of people having zero concept of how their car works as daily I see easily 10 cars that either A) are driving with high beams on 2) driving with NO lights on because they mistake the light given off by the DRL as meaning the headlights are on.

It’s so bad, at least where I am that I honestly wish it was mandated that every single car have auto headlights where the only option is off or on/auto and if the car senses it’s night and the lights are off but you are driving it gives you an audible warning and notice. Same for high beams where if you leave them on for longer than a few minutes a notice comes up saying they are on and if you ignore it the car disables them. If you click ok then it leaves them as is.
It was a non-Touring (I think it was an LX), so it had halogen high beams. The low beams on all 10th gens (and 9.5 gen Touring models) have 6 LED reflectors in each headlight, while the Touring has 3 additional LED reflectors dedicated to the high beams in each headlight (for a total of 9). The outer 4 looked normal enough, but those inner 2 LED's on each headlight seemed much brighter since they were pointing right at my mirror.

It's interesting to note that in some Honda press materials, only 4 of the 6 LED reflectors in each headlight are lit. Like in this accessories video by Honda:


In that front-end shot at 0:13, you can clearly see that the inner LED low beam reflectors are off. You can also see that it's a non-Touring model with halogen high beams if you look closely enough. I wonder if they somehow disabled those two inner LED's just for this video because they were afraid that they would glare too much for the camera? Hmmm...

But I completely agree with you that many people are completely oblivious to their car's lighting at night. It all started when DRLs became a thing, along with electro-luminescent gauge clusters that are always on, even during the day. People see that there's some light coming from the front of the car and that their gauges are lit, and are convinced that their headlights are on. Combine that with the fact that many people are extremely dense, and there's the problem.

I pass a newer Civic almost every night on the same stretch of road, going along with just their LED DRLs and parking lights on. I flick my lights off and on every time I pass them, trying to get them to turn their headlights on, and they ignore me every single time. I'm not sure if they're stupid, or if they're just some ignorant kid that probably thinks that driving with only the DRLs at night looks cool or something (it is a Civic, after all). I even watched them pass right by a cop one night, and the cop did nothing. I probably wouldn't care so much if, 1) LED DRLs at night weren't so blinding, and 2) if that particular road wasn't infested with deer. Unfortunately, it will probably take them hitting a deer or getting pulled over to finally realize what an idiot they've been.

And don't get me started on the morons who drive around at night and never turn off their high beams (mainly Yellow Cab drivers, it seems). There's a special place in you-know-where for them. I usually give them one solid courtesy flash with my high beams, and if they don't turn theirs off within 2 seconds, I flick mine on and leave them on until they pass (unless there are other cars around them). I have no patience when it comes to inconsiderate people, especially when they put myself and others at risk. I even upgraded my high beams to LED just to make the payback more severe.

I think that headlights should be made completely automatic to the point that the driver can't turn them off at night unless the parking brake is engaged. That would at least eliminate the people who drive around with only DRLs. As for the high beams, those should be made completely automatic as well with only the ability to "flash to pass" when other vehicles are nearby. It is nice that more and more cars these days are coming with automatic high beams, and that they seem to work pretty well most of the time. Unfortunately, they can still be overridden, allowing people to keep them on whenever they like. Take that away, and they'd be perfect.
 
Agreed, the cutoff is not sharp at all, but it's way better than the traditional halogen reflector.

Has anyone compared the output to the Acura jewel eye headlights? They have a similar design, but I wonder if the performance on the Acura headlights are better.
While I don't have any photos to share, I have experience driving the Accord and an MDX at night.

The Accord headlights have a softer cutoff and are less intense. The beam spread seems pretty good. In comparison, the jewel eye LEDs on the MDX have a cutoff that appears more distinct, and their intensity is much brighter. The light from the MDX also seems to be more evenly distributed, while the Accord's low beams have different areas that vary in brightness.

Is the cutoff supposed to be a good thing? I hate it in my 9th gen. I dropped in Beamtech LEDs and I'm thinking I'll go back to the stock because the visibility is actually worse with the sharp cutoff.

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For most of my night driving, I prefer the Accord's headlights. The softer cutoff and lower intensity make it a little easier for me to see things further down the road. I'll admit that the MDX LEDs have a beautiful pattern; but to me at least, the foreground lighting is a bit too strong and I feel like my eyes don't adjust as well to the dark in the MDX. Also the intensity, combined with reflections off road signs, sometimes strains my eyes a bit.
 
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