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You will experience a pretty significant increase in heaviness of steering if you get the Envigor. Not only because of the tire's characteristic but also the tire's weight increase. My mileage decreased when I went from stock Michelin's to the Yoko Envigor. My wet and dry tracking got way better however. I have driven in the snow with the Envigor and I don't recommend it, you will slip when you brake. How do I know? I almost got into accidents twice. Now I have a set of 16" RSX rims with snow tires. The immediate feel change was the lightness of steering when I put them on, also quicker acceleration off the line. The more unsprung weight you add, the more off-the-line acceleration you suffer. Braking effort is greater also.
 
The heaviness of steering is due to actual dry grip. The stock Michelins are not designed for that, so you can spin the wheel while the car isn't even moving quite easily. It takes me a lot of force to spin my wheel if I'm motionless with super sticky tires on my front wheels.
 
Recently I got a nice minty set of 04ish TSX wheels that look like they never were used on eBay. I've been searching for the last two weeks off and on. So I've really come to the conclusion that I should ask fellow accord drivers their thoughts on tires.
Bare in mind that I live in Maryland, so we do get some snow/ice in the winter. I have the stock 16" wheels that I can toss winter rubber on if needed. I *might* just sell the stockers and put all seasons on the 17's...
For the winter/summer combo,

Summer/all season tires:
Bridgestone Potenza RE970AS Pole Position
Continental ExtremeContact DWS
Bridgestone Turanza Serenity
Michelin Primacy MXV4
Yokohama AVID ENVigor

I'd like to play the ultimate balancing act here and rate my priorities:

all season performance traction... rain, snow, sunny, hot and cold. I'd like a decent feel of the road as well. I simply can't stand tires that feel like I have a giant marshmallow under each corner of the car.

Mileage... It'd be nice to get a tire on the 17's that got close to what I was able to get MPG wise with the OE set of tires.

Noise/comfort... This is an area I'm not too picky about so long as it's not super intrusive. The yokohama H4S (H rated) I found to be fine noise wise until recently. Also, while I don't want a tire that will jar me on every single bump I hit I again don't want it to feel like a Lincoln town car.

Tread life... So long as they last at least 30-40k I'm happy. Anymore then that it's a bonus. I'm pretty pleased that the H4S lasted the 35k that they have. I have a feeling they will make it to 40k.

My driving style is for the most part pretty average. Though at times I do tend to drive spirited. So I'm leaning in the direction of a good performance tire.
I'll put in my two cents worth and say that I have been impressed by the Michelin Primacy MXV4's I bought in October 2010. I also have 17 inch wheels (it's a V6 SE) and got the V rated one. I love how they handle, they're quiet and they did great in a snowstorm here last January. I have had minimal tread wear on them (maybe up to 2/32's over 15 K miles) However, they are expensive, so I would compare them with the other ones mentioned elsewhere on this thread for cost/value/performance, etc. Good luck!
 
Discussion starter · #24 ·
Thanks alot for the input man! at this point I'm pretty much set on grabbing the DWS's.
They have a 60 day ride guarantee along with the best snow traction for all season tires from the tests I've read so far.

The Primacys were a pretty close second. I wanted to ask what you thought about the ride quality and road handling of the MXV4's. How do they feel during abrupt turning maneuvers? How's the road noise with them so far? And also, how's gas mileage compared to the OE tires?
 
I can say my 16'' V4's are very quiet and composed. The ride is above average and the handling is not bad in quick transitions... at least relative to the capability of the suspension. The snow performance is fine as well just an insecure feeling in the rain, no real hydroplaning just not confidence inspiring.... hard to explain. Can't comment on the mileage vs.stock.
 
I can say my 16'' V4's are very quiet and composed. The ride is above average and the handling is not bad in quick transitions... at least relative to the capability of the suspension. The snow performance is fine as well just an insecure feeling in the rain, no real hydroplaning just not confidence inspiring.... hard to explain. Can't comment on the mileage vs.stock.
FWIW: a second opinion.......

I went thru a heavy socal storm 3/2011. Saw four major traffic pileups on four differing freeways.....fire trucks, police, flashing lights - really bad scenes. Primacy MXV4 tires inspired this sailor as he headed toward nocal with great confidence. But the are a tad pricey (which is why I remained in the Navy Reserve)........

ez
 
FWIW: a second opinion.......

I went thru a heavy socal storm 3/2011. Saw four major traffic pileups on four differing freeways.....fire trucks, police, flashing lights - really bad scenes. Primacy MXV4 tires inspired this sailor as he headed toward nocal with great confidence. But the are a tad pricey (which is why I remained in the Navy Reserve)........

ez
Gotta love oil, gas, and tire threads right? lol
 
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Finally made the decision to go with a set of tires...
I got the Michelin Primacy MXV4 215/50 17 V.

Got a bit of highway and back roads driving in. They are a little nosier then the Yokohama H4S that I had on the 16's. But that was to be expected because these mxv4's are a one two punch of V rated and plus sized tires. They have a 55k mile warranty according to the paperwork that came with them. We'll see how well they'll last with time.

Playing the ultimate balancing act of MPG, treadlife, road feel, wet, dry & light snow seems these tires forte.

I'll try to update in a few weeks with a MPG update...
 
I have my 03 v6 mt6 since day one, and I have 160,000 Km on it now. It came with factory mounted 215/50 17 Michelins cant remember which ones though. Tires lasted for about 80,000km they weren't teribly bad
mounted Pirellis 225/45 17 Pero neros M+S v, what a mistake. loud from day one, lasted about a year and wore down with in a year and could never ballance them properly
switched over to Pirellis P4 225/45 17 what a fantastic tire, 2 years on them now and still going great
 
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So I was looking at the tires today after I scraped a curb lightly while parking and noticed that I didn't get the MXV4. I actually have the Primacy MXM4. Paperwork confirmed that I did indeed pay for the MXM4.

I'm able to get some decent mpg out of them as well so far. First tank I drove it like I didn't care about mileage and got ~30mpg (about what I got out of my old tires). The last tank I drove a bit more gingerly and ended up with 32mpg.

Handling/ride wise...
They handle very well. Much better then the yokohamas I had on there before. Turn in is much crisper. Which is to be expected since I plus sized and went up in speed rating.
Now, all things considered I didn't expect the ride to be as comfortable as it is. These tires ride very well. And tire noise is a bit less then the yokos as well.
 
I put on a set of primacy MXM4's about a month ago.. they're technically a rung up the ladder performance wise from the Primacy V4 which I have on my 05'. They don't wear quite as well according to the rating but its close. I'm very happy so far. Better in the rain, a bit better on off ramps all out, not quite as good in the snow but competent. Purely subjective of course but hopefully they wear well. I've got about 30k on the V4's and they are about 30%. Not impressive but ill get them prorated. My heavy foot certainly doesn't help.
 
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I must say I'm quite happy with my accidental choice. These tires were not even in the running for most likely to buy.

That said from a few reviews that I've read on them they might need a set of winter tires if the weather gets rough. I figured the way this winter is going I won't have much to worry about this year. (I really hope those aren't famous last words :paranoid:)
 
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A bit of a update on the tires. I still love 'em!
They've seen all kinds of weather that you can throw at 'em.
a few weeks ago I had to drive home from work in a "winter's last gasp" sleet/freezing rain mix. This is one area they don't do very well in. I was able to just barely keep from loosing it just before a turnabout (sharp right just before the turnabout had me wondering if I'd be kissing the car coming the other way).

They are otherwise a great 3 and a half season tire. They deal with rain very well and aren't sliding all over the place as soon as rain hits the ground. They have a very nice and balanced overall feel too. sporty when called on (17" wheels help) yet very quiet when I'm just crusing on the highway.
 
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