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Here's a question for thought.....I know that you probably won't recoup the value of the extra $2000 for the V6 at resale in, say 8 years (some though, but not all).

But now that there is more push by society and the government for fuel efficiency, do people think that in 8 years if I were to sell my car:

A) Honda will have stopped making a V6 Accord entirely, and therefore a 2014 V6 will be MORE desirable to enthusiasts?

B) More and more cars will have continued to improve their MPG (lots more hybrids and 4 cyls by then) such that the "norm" will be to get 45+ mpg with good performance, and therefore a 2014 V6 gulping 21 mpg in city will be seen as LESS desirable...more of a dinosaur?

Before the flamers come on to say that I am overanalyzing and have used my allotment of posts since I haven't yet bought a car, just be aware that I'm not hinging any decision on this answer....but just thought of it and wondered what smart minds would think.
 

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I dont think Honda will ever stop making a V6. Trucks, SUV's and V8's would have to go first and as long as Texas exists that will never happen.
 

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a) is negated because there's not really any "enthusiasts" driving an Accord. Plus there's several other models that have more power in this price segment.

V6 vs. I4 is probably a better investment than EX-L vs. LX. No one is going to pay $2k extra for leather seats.
 

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Here's a question for thought.....I know that you probably won't recoup the value of the extra $2000 for the V6 at resale in, say 8 years (some though, but not all).

But now that there is more push by society and the government for fuel efficiency, do people think that in 8 years if I were to sell my car:

A) Honda will have stopped making a V6 Accord entirely, and therefore a 2014 V6 will be MORE desirable to enthusiasts?

B) More and more cars will have continued to improve their MPG (lots more hybrids and 4 cyls by then) such that the "norm" will be to get 45+ mpg with good performance, and therefore a 2014 V6 gulping 21 mpg in city will be seen as LESS desirable...more of a dinosaur?

Before the flamers come on to say that I am overanalyzing and have used my allotment of posts since I haven't yet bought a car, just be aware that I'm not hinging any decision on this answer....but just thought of it and wondered what smart minds would think.
It seems reasonable to think that Honda could go away from the V6 in the Accord in the future but who knows; it could go either way. Right now, I believe only Toyota & Honda offer v6 engine options in their mid size sedans.

I seriously don't think that the "norm" in 8yrs will be 45+ mpg. The Prius has been there for ages and the Insight is just about there yet you don't see them en masse everywhere.

All IMO
 

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drive a car for 8-10 years and it's practically worthless. A few K down on your next one. Honda knows it's audience, there are enough that want the V6 and all the turbo 4's on the market just make it stronger. Keep it 25 yrs and it'll have some value where as the 4 will have none. Don't see folks with classic Chevelle's getting 6mpg having trouble selling their cars do you???
 

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Just sold my 08 exl v6 w/nav, 99k, $12k dealer trade in. 4cy would have fetched $9k.

I would assume that in '19, your v6 w/100k would get you about the same as today.
 

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Just sold my 08 exl v6 w/nav, 99k, $12k dealer trade in. 4cy would have fetched $9k.

I would assume that in '19, your v6 w/100k would get you about the same as today.
yeah I plugged it prices to Edmunds for a hypothetical 2007 model and it appeared to be about $1,000 more for the V6.

I think the V6 is calling but we'll see whether emotion wins over logic. The logic of the I4 is pretty hard to beat especially for mostly city driving, but it wasn't logical for me to order a $99 steak last night either but here we are and sometimes the human brain does illogical things :thmsup:
 

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yeah I plugged it prices to Edmunds for a hypothetical 2007 model and it appeared to be about $1,000 more for the V6.

I think the V6 is calling but we'll see whether emotion wins over logic. The logic of the I4 is pretty hard to beat especially for mostly city driving, but it wasn't logical for me to order a $99 steak last night either but here we are and sometimes the human brain does illogical things :thmsup:
Where does one go to find a $99 steak? I had one a couple of nights ago "wood fired, hand cut this morning, etc etc" and it was $25. The most expensive I had was $50, and I only had it because it was being expensed.
 

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When you get out to 8 to 10 years the miles on the car and its condition make all the difference in how much it will be worth on the used car market.
 

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Where does one go to find a $99 steak? I had one a couple of nights ago "wood fired, hand cut this morning, etc etc" and it was $25. The most expensive I had was $50, and I only had it because it was being expensed.
Corporate expensed dinner too, of course. You think I'd pay $99 of my own dollars for a steak :)???? Was a very large tomahawk chop of wagyu beef (similar to kobe they say).....yeah it was tasty but no it makes no logical sense

When you get out to 8 to 10 years the miles on the car and its condition make all the difference in how much it will be worth on the used car market.
Yes and no - yes you're right on cars in general, but no I'd think an equivalent V6 vs I4, ALL ELSE EQUAL, would still sell for more since it has more power and performance. Again unless society has changed such that it is no longer fashionable to have more power vs. fuel efficiency, such that higher fuel efficiency becomes the metric that is valued above all others. Doubtful I guess since people still like power.....and I think that will remain the case....
 

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Yes and no - yes you're right on cars in general, but no I'd think an equivalent V6 vs I4, ALL ELSE EQUAL, would still sell for more since it has more power and performance. Again unless society has changed such that it is no longer fashionable to have more power vs. fuel efficiency, such that higher fuel efficiency becomes the metric that is valued above all others. Doubtful I guess since people still like power.....and I think that will remain the case....
If I were that good of a prognosticator, I would not have work for a living :D
 

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It's about $1k difference in resale. Also keep in kind the V6 has a timing belt vs. a timing chain on the 4 which will need changed around 100k ($500-800 job).

Pick what you want, enjoy it. Don't worry about the difference if it's what you really want and will make you happy for years to come.
 

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I have to say people who think that the V6 will be worth more in the long run are just plain wrong considering the premium they pay for the option. I have had both and when they get old the 4 cylinder is always easier to sell and I always get more than KBB than the V6's I've sold. Most people in the market for a high mileage older Honda do not want a V6. Generally speaking you can almost always get at least 5k or more for any good running Honda 4 cylinder here in California <200k 1998 and above.
 

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Generally speaking you can almost always get at least 5k or more for any good running Honda 4 cylinder here in California <200k 1998 and above.
Now, now, this can't possibly true nationwide or in California. A 1999 EX I-4 with 200,000 is worth around $2,900. So obviously, it cannot be worth $5,000 more than V-6 (in fact, a V-6 with same specs would be worth around the same, $2,900). This is also true for later model years - logically, it is not possible to have a $5,000 difference, regardless of your anecdotal stories. Sorry.

Like OP and others said, if the car were 8 years old per OP's scenario, the I-4/V-6 difference would be around $1,000.

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Here's a question for thought.....I know that you probably won't recoup the value of the extra $2000 for the V6 at resale in, say 8 years (some though, but not all). In 8 years the V6 will not likely net anything at all, especially if you haven't done the timing belt maintence.

But now that there is more push by society and the government for fuel efficiency, do people think that in 8 years if I were to sell my car:

A) Honda will have stopped making a V6 Accord entirely, and therefore a 2014 V6 will be MORE desirable to enthusiasts? Might be true, though many will want more current technology

B) More and more cars will have continued to improve their MPG (lots more hybrids and 4 cyls by then) such that the "norm" will be to get 45+ mpg with good performance, and therefore a 2014 V6 gulping 21 mpg in city will be seen as LESS desirable...more of a dinosaur? exactly!

Before the flamers come on to say that I am overanalyzing and have used my allotment of posts since I haven't yet bought a car, just be aware that I'm not hinging any decision on this answer....but just thought of it and wondered what smart minds would think.
Really a good thinto think through all of the angles. Trouble is - it's easy to enter the "Analysis paralisis" zone, and stay there.
 

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Here's a question for thought.....I know that you probably won't recoup the value of the extra $2000 for the V6 at resale in, say 8 years (some though, but not all).

But now that there is more push by society and the government for fuel efficiency, do people think that in 8 years if I were to sell my car:

A) Honda will have stopped making a V6 Accord entirely, and therefore a 2014 V6 will be MORE desirable to enthusiasts?

B) More and more cars will have continued to improve their MPG (lots more hybrids and 4 cyls by then) such that the "norm" will be to get 45+ mpg with good performance, and therefore a 2014 V6 gulping 21 mpg in city will be seen as LESS desirable...more of a dinosaur?

Before the flamers come on to say that I am overanalyzing and have used my allotment of posts since I haven't yet bought a car, just be aware that I'm not hinging any decision on this answer....but just thought of it and wondered what smart minds would think.
1. I haven't seen this discussed, but perhaps most important: I know that the MSRP difference is $2,000 but the real life difference is much less than that. When I was shopping last year around this time, the lowest price I found on EX-L I-4 was $25,800 and on EX-L V-6 was $27,100. That's only $1,300 more and, assuming you can recoup $1,000 upon sale, you can do the math. I got a V-6 and made the right decision for myself.

2. Even if the engine efficiencies would have advanced that much, folks who would buy an 8-year Accord obviously cannot afford (or want) a new car. They will likely be comparing Accord to other 6-10 year old used cars, none of which would have superior MPG in any meaningful way.

3. Who knows if V-6s would be extinct in 8 years. I doubt it. Hybrids have been around for 10 years, but they have not killed the conventional engines. It takes a long time for the masses to adopt new technologies before they become truly ubiquitous.

4. If V-6s become much, much less popular, I think you are right that it would be more sought after than now. There will always be people who prefer V-6 over I-4, hybrid or plug-in. That is ingrained in our minds ever since we first started driving - that V-6 is better than I-4 because of superior smoothness, power, higher price, yada, yada, yada. As long as there are climate change deniers (that's like half of the country, at least), you would have eager V-6 buyers.

5. Remember too that you get more than just a V-6 engine. I love the LED DRL's in my V-6. They make the car look so much more upscale and aggressive. I have seen aftermarket LED DRL's in Accords and they are not anywhere as bright. You also get Homelink, which I don't get excited about but a lot of folks desire that around here. Also, you get dual chrome exhaust tips. All of those things should be in your calculus.

6. I think you are having a "paralysis by analysis." :) Buying a family sedan is not like buying a house or marrying someone. With an Accord, you can readily undo your decision and not lose too much on resale no matter when you get rid of it. You strike me as a very smart, (over?) analytical person. If you sense an unfavorable trend that adversely affect the resale value, I am sure you can move before the others realize it.

7. Just go buy a V-6 Accord already! As a great philosopher named Robin Thicke once said, "You know you want it." Good luck, bro!

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Shopping the cars right you'll find the V6 can be had for only $1,200 to $1,500 more than the i4. I don't want to threadjack into a CVT's are unreliable thread, but the CVT was a deal breaker FOR ME on the i4. You can hope and dream that it's a Honda and it'll be fine, but it's simply not time tested. Being that my CVT failed on my 13 altima in under 10,000 miles I was not about to jump into another one. $1,500 bought piece of mind and provided a much higher performance driving experience for me. If I get an extra thousand when I sell it I've only spent $500 for it...no brainer to me:yes: Check this out...CVT failure is a sticky on the nissan board: http://www.nissanclub.com/forums/2013-nissan-altima-discussion-2-5-3-5/373161-cvt-replacement-list-5th-gens-only.html
 

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But they don't make an LX V6, or else I would have bought that. But the difference between the LX I4 and the EX V6 was such a huge price difference that it became cost prohibitive when I was buying. (I don't need/want navi, leather, backup camera, etc).
 

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But they don't make an LX V6, or else I would have bought that. But the difference between the LX I4 and the EX V6 was such a huge price difference that it became cost prohibitive when I was buying. (I don't need/want navi, leather, backup camera, etc).
True, they used to offer an LX V6 (when I bought my 04 EX). Wonder why they did away with that. Guess they want to only offer V6 in more premium trim...:dunno:
 

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Just traded my 09 V6 in June. The trade offer was done for a 4cyl first, they forgot it was a V6. I got just over 2K Canadian more once they realized it was a V6. The market here is really tough, trade in values are horrible, I could have gotten more if I drove off the island to the next province.

It sold the day it hit the lot.
 
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