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I read a few different complaints about the EX-L V6 sedan having too stiff and bumpy of a ride for the type of car it is.

There were supposed to be suspension changes in the 2016s. Does this make the ride more compliant on the 2016s?
 
2016 Touring has the dual stage dampers from the TLX but the low profile tire setup amplifies road imperfections so the overall perceived difference isn't any better. Possible cure is to put the higher profile 215/55 wheels/tires from the older years onto the new Touring; haven't heard anyone actually do this though.
 
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I didn't mean Touring. People expect a tight and rough ride in the Touring and Sport, but expect a comfortable ride in the EX-L V6 and were not getting it in the 2013s.
Maybe Honda's way to handle the extra engine weight of the V6 was by making the suspension stiffer at the expense of ride.
I'm wondering if the 2016 changes addressed ride comfort in the EX-L V6.
 
I test drove a 2016 EXL-V6, and to be honest, if I hadn't read about the so-called suspension "improvements", I wouldn't have known they had made any. Was it better than the 2013 V6? Probably slightly, but not "wow this car rides like a dream" better.

In my opinion, the switch to struts from double-wishbone has not been handled successfully by Honda.
 
The stiff ride is probably my biggest complaint with my 2014 V6 sedan. My 8th gens weren't smooth by any means, but they were definitely smoother than this thing. I think it may be a tad less stiff than my 2007 V6 sedan, but it's been several years since I had that one and my memory is a little fuzzy.

They supposedly retuned the suspension on all models for 2016, not just the Touring. Car and Driver called a 2016 EX sedan's ride "luxury car smooth", something that's never been said about an Accord before. Ever. So they must have improved the ride quite a bit. Unfortunately, it seems that handling has been affected negatively as that test car's skidpad grip of 0.80g was waaaayyy below the last Accord EX they tested which pulled 0.87g on the skidpad. How this translates to the V6 models, I have no idea. I'm really curious as well to see how much the ride has improved. I want to get a Touring, but the thought of those blowout-prone 19" tires scares me. I also cringe at the thought of how it would ride over the horrible roads in Charlotte. I'm thinking about trading down to a 17 or 18 inch wheel if I get one just to be safe. I bet the Touring on 17's (if they clear the Touring's larger brakes) really would ride like a luxury car with those fancy shocks. Too bad the 17's on the 2016 are just about the most hideous wheels I've ever seen on a car. I thought they looked bad in pictures but they're 10 times worse in person. Yuck.
 
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If someone wants a cloudlike ride, they should drive a Buick, at least from the 90s, would put you to sleep. Buy a mint 92-98 LeSabre, Park Avenue, or Roadmaster and rebuild the suspension.
I knew someone would make a comment like that. I never said I needed an extremely soft, cloudlike ride,
I don't want a Roadmaster. I just want a comfortable family sedan ride or I would buy a sports coupe instead of an Accord sedan.
The Accord Sport, and Touring exist for people who want hard rides in an Accord sedan. The Mazda 6 is also kind of a hard riding car. I don't expect a hard ride in a 4-door sedan with leather seats, 17 inch tires and fake wood trim that is trying to look like a somewhat of an economical version of a luxury sedan.

Maybe a new Accord EX-L V6 is the wrong car for a comfortable ride and I should look at a pre-owned Acural TLX instead.
 
I think a tire change does amazing things to this car. The V6 models come with Michelin MXM4 primacys and while they're expensive tires designed for a quiet ride I think they're the wrong choice for a front wheel drive car with a powerful V6 engine.

I used to have Continental Extreme Contact DWS on my previous car and feel in love with them. On the Accord, I switched to the DWS's on closeout pricing and paid 1/2 of what the Michelins cost but got a less choppy ride and significantly improved handling. When I stomp on the gas the car grips down and goes, taking corners feels planted, and I get none of the slippage I used to have with the Michelins. The Continentals are just a touch noisier than the Michelins but for the improved grip, handling, and more compliant ride its worth it to me.
 
If someone wants a cloudlike ride, they should drive a Buick, at least from the 90s, would put you to sleep. Buy a mint 92-98 LeSabre, Park Avenue, or Roadmaster and rebuild the suspension.
Camry LE or XLE = Pillowy Ride

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I just went on a test drive of a 2016 EX-L V6 and it at least felt no worse to me than the 2013 EX 4 cylinder I drove in with. So, maybe the suspension tweaks were enough to close the ride quality gap between an Accord I4 vs V6.

It was a bearable ride, but I think I will try to test drive a 2015 TLX tomorrow to see if it feels much better.
To stay in the same price range as a 2016 EX-L V6, I'll need to look at a used 2015 2.4 TLX.
It won't be a V6, but it's possible that the extra sound deadening along with Acura's 8 speed automatic will be enough to make it at least as comfortable and refined to drive as a 2016 Accord with V6.
2.4 TLX will be slower than a V6 Accord, but the reason I want the V6 Accord over the I4 Accord is for refinement, not faster 0-60 times.
The TLX has 201 HP which, along with the 8 speed automatic, will be plenty fast enough.
 
One person's harsh ride is another's comfort zone. Ride comfort is a purely subjective thing - you need to experience it and decide for yourself. If it weren't so, then many car models would simply never sell.
 
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Over smooth pavement my 2016 LX rides better and is much quieter than my 2008 EX-L. However over broken pavement the 2016 is choppier.
 
When I was looking to get rid of my V6 Accord (due to the ride), I test drove both the 4- and 6-cylinder TLXs. They definitely ride better. They are quieter than the Accord too, although I didn't think they were THAT much quieter. Also, despite PAWS etc. I didn't think they handled that much better than the Honda. They were too small inside for my particular preference, and I felt there was too much Honda-ness in the interior. Add to that the lack of spare tire and a premium fuel requirement and I passed. Now a CPO version probably makes more sense. Personally I was disappointed and underwhelmed with the TLX - as Car and Driver called it, an Accord with a thicker layer of frosting. Good luck.

I just went on a test drive of a 2016 EX-L V6 and it at least felt no worse to me than the 2013 EX 4 cylinder I drove in with. So, maybe the suspension tweaks were enough to close the ride quality gap between an Accord I4 vs V6.

It was a bearable ride, but I think I will try to test drive a 2015 TLX tomorrow to see if it feels much better.
To stay in the same price range as a 2016 EX-L V6, I'll need to look at a used 2015 2.4 TLX.
It won't be a V6, but it's possible that the extra sound deadening along with Acura's 8 speed automatic will be enough to make it at least as comfortable and refined to drive as a 2016 Accord with V6.
2.4 TLX will be slower than a V6 Accord, but the reason I want the V6 Accord over the I4 Accord is for refinement, not faster 0-60 times.
The TLX has 201 HP which, along with the 8 speed automatic, will be plenty fast enough.
 
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Camry LE or XLE = Pillowy Ride

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Maybe a Camry from 10 years ago had a pillowy ride. I rode in a 2014 Camry LE and it didn't seem to hide bumps in the road any better than an Accord.
Camry seats are pretty bad. So, even if the suspension was slightly more compliant, the net ride comfort would be negative to an Accord due to poorly designed seats.
 
Maybe a Camry from 10 years ago had a pillowy ride. I rode in a 2014 Camry LE and it didn't seem to hide bumps in the road any better than an Accord.
Camry seats are pretty bad. So, even if the suspension was slightly more compliant, the net ride comfort would be negative to an Accord due to poorly designed seats.
Dunno...I have both 14 Camry XLE and 11 Accord V6 sedan. Camry is pillow suspension and Accord is sporty road feel. Both are awesome IMO. I believe Camry LE and XLE have same pillow suspension. Camry SE is more like Accord with road feel. Depends on what u are looking for. Seats in my XLE are very soft materials and very comfy.

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Malibus are supposed to be reasonably priced cars with a smooth an quiet ride, but the 2013-2015s were bad cars in many other ways. The 2016 redesign costs more than an Accord due to it being a brand new model without much discounting. I can get an EX-L V6 sedan discounted to much less than an a similarly equipped Malibu Premier. Then I would lose a lot more money at resale time. Not worth it.
Also, for the first time I have seen reviews of the Malibu where the reviewer stated road noise was kind of an issue.
So, it seems like some of the 300lbs Chevy saved in the 2016 redesign came from reduced sound deadening.
 
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Dunno...I have both 14 Camry XLE and 11 Accord V6 sedan. Camry is pillow suspension and Accord is sporty road feel. Both are awesome IMO. I believe Camry LE and XLE have same pillow suspension. Camry SE is more like Accord with road feel. Depends on what u are looking for. Seats in my XLE are very soft materials and very comfy.

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A coworker rented a 2014 Camry LE for a road trip and complained that the seats left him with a backache after a couple of hours.
I have seen reviews that state that you sit on top of Camry seats, not in them.
The Camry seats have almost no contouring and little support.
The most comfortable seats in the class are supposed to be Altima Zero Gravity seats with the Accord seats seen as reasonably comfortable by most people.
 
A coworker rented a 2014 Camry LE for a road trip and complained that the seats left him with a backache after a couple of hours.
I have seen reviews that state that you sit on top of Camry seats, not in them.
The Camry seats have almost no contouring and little support.
The most comfortable seats in the class are supposed to be Altima Zero Gravity seats with the Accord seats seen as reasonably comfortable by most people.
I rented a Camry SE and the seats are firm and more sporty. Might suck on long trips. The XLE is definitely a different breed with soft materials. I do 60 miles a day in my Camry and it's very comfy. It's the choice for people over 65 everywhere! Seniors wouldn't put up with hard seats in the Camry or they wouldn't sell a zillion like they do.

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I rented a Camry SE and the seats are firm and more sporty. Might suck on long trips. The XLE is definitely a different breed with soft materials. I do 60 miles a day in my Camry and it's very comfy. It's the choice for people over 65 everywhere! Seniors wouldn't put up with hard seats in the Camry or they wouldn't sell a zillion like they do.

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Lots of seniors complaining about Camry seats.
2015 Toyota Camry Uncomfortable Seats: 6 Complaints
https://www.facebook.com/toyota/posts/10151196954789201

There is a balance you need in seat firmness. Too hard and it's like sitting on a park bench and gets uncomfortable. Too soft and the lack of back and thigh support makes you uncomfortable.
 
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