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VTC Solenoid Leak? I need Gasket Part numbers

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Long story short
Drove while it was raining lightly today, parked, few hours later went out to move the car for the upcoming expected snow, saw Oil stains on the ground near the FR Tire. Opened the hood, Oil around the Front exhaust manifold area, Little bit on the Right side of the altenator too, Going All the way down to the subframe where it was able to be touched by water to get it onto the ground i guess. Valve cover and intake gaskets replaced by a mechanic a year ago/about 1500 miles ago, So it probably isnt that. I Posted On Two 8th gen accord facebook Groups and a Honda Discord, Everyone seems to agree its the Common solenoid leak. Now i need to find part numbers for the two gaskets i need, Its a 2012 Honda Accord Coupe EX-L V6. Ive found two part numbers On ebay, 15815-R70-A01 And 5845-R70-A01 (I guess Two is needed Per job?) But Honda Automotive Parts says Both part numbers are invalid? So are these correct, or is there a different number? I cant even search Overall on the Honda Automotive parts Site now because ive forgotten the exact name for the Solenoid And everyone has a different name. VTC Actuator, VTC Solenoid, VVT Solenoid And so on.
Hopefully The Oil on the Altenator Won't Kill it?

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The Mahle gasket set on Rock Auto cross references to the same part numbers you listed above. It's out of stock right now.

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2012 HONDA ACCORD 3.5L V6 Variable Valve Timing (VVT) Solenoid Gasket | RockAuto

RockAuto ships auto parts and body parts from over 300 manufacturers to customers' doors worldwide, all at warehouse prices. Easy to use parts catalog.
www.rockauto.com
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a1smith said:
The Mahle gasket set on Rock Auto cross references to the same part numbers you listed above. It's out of stock right now.

Here's the whole list.

2012 HONDA ACCORD 3.5L V6 Variable Valve Timing (VVT) Solenoid Gasket | RockAuto

RockAuto ships auto parts and body parts from over 300 manufacturers to customers' doors worldwide, all at warehouse prices. Easy to use parts catalog.
www.rockauto.com
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Some in that list Show in stock, But none are Honda OEM. Someone On Facebook also tried to say that Honda doesn't sell them Separate from the entire assembly. so should i just be buying ebay ones?
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Honda does not sell the gaskets separately. This is fact. The "Honda" gaskets you see on eBay are counterfeits.

You have a few options here. One of them is to buy the whole solenoid assembly (around $150-160 from Majestic) and use just the top half and the new gaskets. This is what Honda's TSB recommends.

You could also try the counterfeit gaskets. Some have had luck with them, others haven't.

You could also use the aftermarket gaskets/assemblies. Again, some have had luck with them, some haven't.

And just to clarify, this is not a VVT solenoid, it's not a VTEC solenoid, and it's not a VTC solenoid. It's just an oil control valve for VCM.
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WiiMaster said:
Honda does not sell the gaskets separately. This is fact. The "Honda" gaskets you see on eBay are counterfeits.

You have a few options here. One of them is to buy the whole solenoid assembly (around $150-160 from Majestic) and use just the top half and the new gaskets. This is what Honda's TSB recommends.

You could also try the counterfeit gaskets. Some have had luck with them, others haven't.

You could also use the aftermarket gaskets/assemblies. Again, some have had luck with them, some haven't.

And just to clarify, this is not a VVT solenoid, it's not a VTEC solenoid, and it's not a VTC solenoid. It's just an oil control valve for VCM.
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Yeah I know they aren't real the ebay gaskets are fake oem for $10, it doesn't seem super complicated to swap, so it may be worth just trying the ebay ones for now and then watching it. Worst case it leaks I guess. It's been known these sellers will immediately refund if you mention that it's not real oem so they don't get reported, so if it has a problem I likely can get an instant refund no questions asked.
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Ang said:
Yeah I know they aren't real the ebay gaskets are fake oem for $10, it doesn't seem super complicated to swap, so it may be worth just trying the ebay ones for now and then watching it. Worst case it leaks I guess. It's been known these sellers will immediately refund if you mention that it's not real oem so they don't get reported, so if it has a problem I likely can get an instant refund no questions asked.
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At that point you might as well just get the aftermarket gaskets.
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WiiMaster said:
At that point you might as well just get the aftermarket gaskets.
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@Ang - 2 votes for aftermarket. Mahle is a German company and one of the world's largest auto suppliers - I would buy their part before getting counterfeit parts. Unfortunately, it seems the gasket set is out of stock everywhere and has been for a while.

This thread has a post saying they had good luck with the Dorman gasket set. It was out of stock at Rock Auto as well.
www.odyclub.com

VVT Solenoid gasket ?

So after weekly checks - - - Yes the gasket is leaking over my expensive alternator. Tried to get the gaskets from my Canadian Honda dealer, no gaskets to be had. Lucky for me I can buy a whole new spool valve assembly and THEY come with gaskets. Honestly, what is Honda thinking.....oh ya...
www.odyclub.com www.odyclub.com

Maybe you can find the Dorman or Mahle gasket sets somewhere else.
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Mahle is a good gasket company.

If you don't mind getting a solenoid assembly, whether that's an OEM or aftermarket assembly, I would go that route if at all possible. Honda's TSB says to replace the assembly and not just the gaskets for a reason. I imagine the mating surface on the solenoid also gets worn.
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WiiMaster said:
Mahle is a good gasket company.

If you don't mind getting a solenoid assembly, whether that's an OEM or aftermarket assembly, I would go that route if at all possible. Honda's TSB says to replace the assembly and not just the gaskets for a reason. I imagine the mating surface on the solenoid also gets worn.
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Why would it be worn? It's just two parts bolted together. It's like $150 or whatever for the entire assembly, something I would really like to not have to buy right now if I don't Need to. If the gaskets last me a year and I still have the car, I can buy the entire assembly then.
I was also told I can just spray off the side of the engine with brake cleaner, this won't damage the alternator or wiring right? There is no wiring directly being sprayed, but the high pressure could splash a little.
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Brake cleaner typically has methanol in it which is bad for elastomeric seals, plastic parts, etc. So, be careful where it splashes.
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a1smith said:
Brake cleaner typically has methanol in it which is bad for elastomeric seals, plastic parts, etc. So, be careful where it splashes.
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Unfortunately there will never be an answer, because half of people say it's bad, and half say they use it no problem, and it evaporates to fast to do anything.
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How can I tell if my alternator is already damaged from the oil? There was oil on The Back of the Alternator.
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Hi,

I used the gasket from this seller :

www.ebay.com

New OEM Cylinder Head Solenoid Gasket VTEC For Honda 15815R70A01 15845R70A01 | eBay

Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for New OEM Cylinder Head Solenoid Gasket VTEC For Honda 15815R70A01 15845R70A01 at the best online prices at eBay! Free shipping for many products!
www.ebay.com

But Instead of the metal mesh from the seller I used the one old one, cause I read the mesh holes diameter might be different thus, affecting it, to a point that you get a code.

good luck
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honda2009 said:
Hi,

I used the gasket from this seller :

www.ebay.com

New OEM Cylinder Head Solenoid Gasket VTEC For Honda 15815R70A01 15845R70A01 | eBay

Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for New OEM Cylinder Head Solenoid Gasket VTEC For Honda 15815R70A01 15845R70A01 at the best online prices at eBay! Free shipping for many products!
www.ebay.com

But Instead of the metal mesh from the seller I used the one old one, cause I read the mesh holes diameter might be different thus, affecting it, to a point that you get a code.

good luck
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I ended up replacing the whole thing with a Dorman solenoid. I had no check engine light but it was leaking and the bolts broke.
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honda2009 said:
Hi,

I used the gasket from this seller :

www.ebay.com

New OEM Cylinder Head Solenoid Gasket VTEC For Honda 15815R70A01 15845R70A01 | eBay

Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for New OEM Cylinder Head Solenoid Gasket VTEC For Honda 15815R70A01 15845R70A01 at the best online prices at eBay! Free shipping for many products!
www.ebay.com

But Instead of the metal mesh from the seller I used the one old one, cause I read the mesh holes diameter might be different thus, affecting it, to a point that you get a code.

good luck
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Note that these are counterfeit.
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WiiMaster said:
Note that these are counterfeit.
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probably correct....however the gasket, cost is about $10, beats buying the whole part for over $150.
Gasket is still holding up on vehicule
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honda2009 said:
probably correct....however the gasket, cost is about $10, beats buying the whole part for over $150.
Gasket is still holding up on vehicule
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You could also just buy a real aftermarket gasket at that point.
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honda2009 said:
probably correct....however the gasket, cost is about $10, beats buying the whole part for over $150.
Gasket is still holding up on vehicule
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Except for when it leaks and doesn't work.
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