[JHawk774]

Let me preface this by saying I'm not a gear-head or "car-guy" so motor choice isn't usually at the top of the list when it comes to important features in a car for me. But it seems like the two biggest, most vocal complaints about the 10G accord are the styling and the lack of a V6. On the one hand, I can understand lamenting the loss of the old V6 to a point because it had such a loyal following, but it seems like there are just as many people saying stuff like "the Camry is a better buy because it has a V6 option." So while my initial impression was the complaints centered around the loss of the "Honda" V6, it seems like people just hold the V6 motor concept to a general level of higher regard than the small block turbos.

Just seems like people get caught up in engine displacement and number of cylinders, when in reality it's things like horsepower/torque and real-world performance that actually matter. I know the sample size might be a bit small but I've seen a few articles that show the V6 vs 2.0T showdown to be almost a dead heat. I think the V6 has a bit more HP and torque but the 0-60 and 1/4mile times are almost identical.

 

[VFR4Lee]

It's the sound, the power delivery, the torque and HP.
The V6 runs nice and smooth, sounds good when you step on it, and goes rapido.
It gives a grin. :grin

If you step on it and it still goes, but sounds like a sewing machine. Well....... Not as good. :|

Really I prefer a V twin in a bike, or a V4. :devil

 

[Markus]

Very very few I4 engines run and idle as smoothly as a polished V6 like Honda's J35 engine. That is all.

 

[Metfanant]

It's the sound, the power delivery, the torque and HP.
The V6 runs nice and smooth, sounds good when you step on it, and goes rapido.
It gives a grin.

If you step on it and it still goes, but sounds like a sewing machine. Well....... Not as good.

Really I prefer a V twin in a bike, or a V4.

I'll give you the sound of the V6...I might even give you the more linear power delivery of a naturally aspirated engine...

But the 2.0 turbo motor makes TRUCK LOADS more torque than the V6 did...and makes that torque WAY earlier in the rpm range...

 

[VFR4Lee]

But the 2.0 turbo motor makes TRUCK LOADS more torque than the V6 did...and makes that torque WAY earlier in the rpm range...

Pretty sure nobody will complain about that. Well, someone will want even more. :laugh

 

[herosemblem]

I think some are also concerned about the reliability of a turbo engine compared to a naturally aspirated engine.

I haven't kept track of turbo engine reliability over 20+ years, so i don't know.

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[DatsunSaves]

I'll give you the sound of the V6...I might even give you the more linear power delivery of a naturally aspirated engine...

But the 2.0 turbo motor makes TRUCK LOADS more torque than the V6 did...and makes that torque WAY earlier in the rpm range...

Linear, LOL Kal Kew Lus

 

[jimijam]

Let me preface this by saying I'm not a gear-head or "car-guy"

Then there is no way you are going to understand by reading some responses on a forum. Go rent a 2017 V6 Accord, then a 2017 i4 Accord and report back.

But the 2.0 turbo motor makes TRUCK LOADS more torque than the V6 did

:lmao:

So you define an increase of 21 lb-ft of torque as "TRUCK LOADS"? What would you call the 26 hp decrease in HP from last year's V6 to that 2.0 turbo then?

 

[Knxwledge]

Here we go...

 

[GoLowDrew]

We can say the same thing about truck engines. Ford's 2.7L turbo is a great engine. It has power, etc. But people still want the V8. Some things you just can't measure by the numbers. The 2.0 is every way "better", but it's no V6.

 

[datechbpss101]

We also gotta remember, the i4 does more work to get the car moving whereas the V6 and higher cylinder engines moves the car at 1/16 throttle which means less work.

I personally haven't driven the Honda version of the J35, as I have been driving the Acura version, and it doesn't take ages to move, and the sound, it can't be beaten, especially in manual mode. :grin

 

[Hematitis]

How smooth was the VCM actuation on the 9th gen Accord? On the 2nd gen Pilot, it was very prominent, annoyingly so. This is one thing I'm happy to have avoided through Honda's choice to drop the V6 from the Accord, but I don't know how much of an issue it was.

 

[Metfanant]

Linear, LOL Kal Kew Lus

If you don't understand the concept of linear power delivery...Google it...

So you define an increase of 21 lb-ft of torque as "TRUCK LOADS"? What would you call the 26 hp decrease in HP from last year's V6 to that 2.0 turbo then?

Here's the salty V6 troll back in the 10g forum, secretly wishing his engine was better

Peak numbers are only half the story...how many ft-lbs of torque does a 2017 V6 make at 1500rpm?...

Don't bother...let's take a look...weird that a STOCK 2.0 makes more torque down low than a V6 with a bunch of bolt ons and a custom tune huh?

We also gotta remember, the i4 does more work to get the car moving whereas the V6 and higher cylinder engines moves the car at 1/16 throttle which means less work.

I personally haven't driven the Honda version of the J35, as I have been driving the Acura version, and it doesn't take ages to move, and the sound, it can't be beaten, especially in manual mode.

Stop making up numbers lol

 

[datechbpss101]

Stop making up numbers lol

I ain't making numbers up... its just from experience, thats all... nothing wrong about that. :devil

 

[Metfanant]

I ain't making numbers up... its just from experience, thats all... nothing wrong about that. :devil

You're "moving the car a 1/16 throttle" is a made up number lol...

And you have no factual evidence to prove the 2.0 turbo has to work any harder than the V6 to move the car...

If anything, it makes power much lower than the V6...so the V6 actually has to rev higher (ie:work harder)...

But don't let facts get in the way of your argument


As someone that's owned a car with a 5 liter V8 since I was 16, it's funny to read you guys on a Honda forum making blind arguments for more displacement and more cylinders being automatically better

 

[jimijam]

secretly wishing his engine was better.......As someone that's owned a car with a 5 liter V8 since I was 16

Lol..you've got a lot to learn. The Accord V6 is the slowest and least powerful car I own. I've currently got a few V8s so I'm not worried about my under-powered grocery getting commuting to work Accord. And please stop with 94 Mustang GT being so special comment. Some of us, know better and have owned more V8s than you have likes on facebook.

 

[DbO^SlogXZ#1]

Maybe I'm an old school, but it is sad to see the V-6 disappear from the Accord. A friend of mine has a '18 2.0T Accord -- nice car, with all safety features, but I still prefer a sound, and linear power delivery of my '08 V-6 -- with deactivated VCM it is very smooth, previously, I was also satisfied with a J30 engine in my '05 Accord. It remains to be seen whether or not smaller I-4 turbos will be as reliable as J-series V6. Another friend of mine, has an early '90s Lexus LS with a V-8, and it is still going strong with more than 400K miles -- it seems like bigger engines don't have to work as hard.

 

[Metfanant]

secretly wishing his engine was better.......As someone that's owned a car with a 5 liter V8 since I was 16

Lol..you've got a lot to learn, boy. The Accord V6 is the slowest and least powerful car I own. I've got a few V8s so I'm not worried about my under-powered grocery getting commuting to work Accord. And please stop with 94 Mustang GT being so special comment. Some of us, know better.

There is nothing you can teach me...am I supposed to be impressed by that factory intake manifold?

 

[jimijam]

'90s Lexus LS with a V-8, and it is still going strong with more than 400K miles --

Those Toyota/Lexus V8s are bulletproof....got one myself.

 

[jimijam]

There is nothing you can teach me...am I supposed to be impressed by that factory intake manifold?

Can you see the port and polish job on the upper and lower that flows better that that off the shelf intake you have on yours, assuming it wasn't hogged out? Nope. Can you see the other top end work done, including AFR heads that aren't on a "future mods" list? Nope. Can you see all the other parts from the fuel system, to the exhaust with smog delete, to the transmission and gears that weren't stock either? Nope. Do you know that 80mm MAF on yours is too big and is costing you HP right now? Nope. You have a LOT to learn, kid.

Now lets get back to talking about that beast of a 2.0L turbo with a whopping 252 hp you've got....:lmao: