[Phongvtboy]

Hey guys so after watching the tube there was a commercial about the new 2010 ford tarus sho which is 365 hp boosted car. I decided to look it up if i heard correctly, a ford twin turbo with 365 horsepower. i went through and found the same source in an attempt to have a similar layout of comparison. Well here it is, let me know what you guys think.
Accord vs altima http://www.insideline.com/honda/acc...d/2008/comparison-test-2008-honda-accord-coupe-vs-2008-nissan-altima-coupe.html
sho vs g8 http://blogs.insideline.com/straigh...straightline/2009/06/il-track-tested-2010-ford-taurus-sho-vs-pontiac-g8-gt.html
Dont know how this thread will go but in my opinion (bias of course) the accord wins haha.

 

[YRMed]

You know, I guess I see where you are coming from. I guess you figured that because the Accord/Altima/G8/Taurus all have the same or similar 0-60 time and maybe even 1/4 mile that they are comparable cars, but they aren't. And what does the Accord win at exactly?

Tell you what, in certain criterion, like value, perhaps the accord wins, maybe. As far as handling, i don't really know, but it could be on par with the other 3 cars. Now, imagine you and your 3 friends decide to go to for a little road trip and your destination is 3 or 4 hours away. Imagine that your friends are 6' feet tall, 200 lbs guys and 2 of them must sit on those god awful things Honda calls the rear seats in the coupe. They have no support for the butt at all. They flatten out, and that is where the SHO and the GT win because they are most likely must more comfortable than the Accord coupe or the Altima coupe.

 

[Phongvtboy]

Yrmed appreciate your input. I'm a fan of import cars so that serves as my bias. In response yo your question I think our accords definately have our share of problems
but my 6-6 still makes necks turn and altimas don't just seem to have that effect, and I never notice g8s unless one is cutting me off and as far as the new sho, it's too new for me to get the chance to see one in person. Another thing is the accord is only a 3.5 v6 with 271 and the sho has an unimpressive 365 and you'd expect more for 40k that's a fifth of a middle class home here in co. I would much rather spend another 5k n get a G37 awd. Or keep the accord and put that 12k and invest in r&d for a
snail or two for the v6.

 

[CDsDontBurn]

with a 12k price tag difference between the accord and sho, the sho does offer more things IMO. and how is nearly 100hp more "unimpressive"? just to list off a few things:

1. nearly 100hp more
2. a tad over 100lb more torque
3. AWD drive train
4. better suited to carry more passengers

just a few things that make it worth the extra 12k over the accord and still 5k cheaper than the G37 AWD you mentioned

 

[Phongvtboy]

It's unimpressive because you'd expect 365 hp and all that tq plus it being boosted to have much better 0-60 and 1/4 mile time. I don't remember exactly but people have reported the 6-6 to run mid 14s bone stock and I think edmunds said the sho is 14.2... I feel as though hondas 4cyls compare to fords v6s n maybe v8. B18c in an ek vs mustang gt.... Ek is a clear winner definately due to weight. I'm on my phone so not inclined but is the sho slightly faster than the accord rather than a lot faster die to weight?

 

[namegoeshere]

1. The Taurus has an auto tranny whereas the Accord coupe had a manual
2. The Taurus (4,404 lbs) is 1006 lbs heavier than the Accord (3,398 lbs)

Those 2 reasons above significantly affect the Taurus' performance. Now, if you compared the Taurus to an auto V6 Accord sedan or, better yet, put 1000 lbs of extra weight into the 6MT Accord, then the Accord's numbers won't look as impressive.

 

[rawz1313]

Edmund's has had some of the most sporadic numbers for 0-60 times from what I have seen over the years. I've seen multiple other sources, like MotorTrend, giving the SHO around a 4.8 second 0-60 time.

Also, weight has a much smaller impact on 0-60 times than one would think. Yes, it can make a difference with less powerful vehicles, but the more horses you add the less of a difference there will be. Weight is a much larger factor at higher speeds.

 

[BenjiBoy650]

Also, weight has a much smaller impact on 0-60 times than one would think. Yes, it can make a difference with less powerful vehicles, but the more horses you add the less of a difference there will be. Weight is a much larger factor at higher speeds.

I think you have it backwards...weight has a much larger impact off the line and aerodynamics take over at high speed...

By the way, what exactly do you people expect from 40K? How many family sedans even HAVE 300HP, never mind 365? There is NO vehicle that Honda sells that produces 365HP regardless of cost, and somehow you idolize them. But when someone else sells a 365HP car for $40K (do you know how much an RL costs?), that's not impressive? I see...

And I've never trusted InsideLine test figures, because they flat out suck. Find the oddball below

C&D SHO 1/4 mile 13.7
http://www.caranddriver.com/var/ezf...r/ezflow_site/storage/original/application/36cd708e3186660442ebe608449a4be7.pdf

R&T SHO 1/4 mile 13.6
http://www.roadandtrack.com/content...e/2010-Ford-Taurus-SHO-vs-2010-Mitsubishi-Lancer-Evolution-MR-Touring_chart.pdf

MT SHO 1/4 mile 13.7
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/sedans/112_0909_2010_ford_taurus_sho_test/specs.html

Edmunds...14.2

 

[ElectricFuzz]

It's unimpressive because you'd expect 365 hp and all that tq plus it being boosted to have much better 0-60 and 1/4 mile time. I don't remember exactly but people have reported the 6-6 to run mid 14s bone stock and I think edmunds said the sho is 14.2... I feel as though hondas 4cyls compare to fords v6s n maybe v8. B18c in an ek vs mustang gt.... Ek is a clear winner definately due to weight. I'm on my phone so not inclined but is the sho slightly faster than the accord rather than a lot faster die to weight?

Not for long though. The Accord's 2.4L I4 gets 190 HP and the Mustang's 4.0L V6 gets 210 HP. But for 2011, Ford's finally gonna update their outdated engines.

 

[esquiss]

Man you are pretty damn biased. I still fail to see the basis for your opinions.

There is no way an i4 can compare to a v8. It may seem that way because Ford likes to make large engines with little hp, but you have to think about context and potential

 

[SD70MAC]

SHO FTW in my book. That car offers much more than the Accord IMO.

 

[turbodave]

I think you have it backwards...weight has a much larger impact off the line and aerodynamics take over at high speed...


C&D SHO 1/4 mile 13.7
http://www.caranddriver.com/var/ezf...r/ezflow_site/storage/original/application/36cd708e3186660442ebe608449a4be7.pdf

R&T SHO 1/4 mile 13.6
http://www.roadandtrack.com/content...e/2010-Ford-Taurus-SHO-vs-2010-Mitsubishi-Lancer-Evolution-MR-Touring_chart.pdf

MT SHO 1/4 mile 13.7
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/sedans/112_0909_2010_ford_taurus_sho_test/specs.html

Edmunds...14.2

You hit the nail on the head, he got it totally backward. Weight is EVERYTHING off the line, aerodynamics takes over at speed.

 

[Danielc409]

The title of this this thread says altima vs accoard and SHO vs g8. Sounds like it's suppose to be 2 different comparisons, but okay? And yea 2 different car classes = no comparison.

 

[andysinnh]

I personally believe that every car maker has to taste some "humble pie" in order to be stronger - or decide they're not a leader. This has happened to Ford over the past 20 years, and things we're seeing out of that company are pretty darned impressive. I think Honda has some serious soul-searching to do and start making some dramatic changes to be stronger in the long haul. I'm very curious to see how Toyota emerges from their latest chaos - will definitely show the mettle of that company. And while I haven't driven an SHO, I have sat in one and looked it over pretty closely. Let me tell you, just in terms of look/feel/features/"aura" - the SHO leaves the Accord 6-6 in the dust. But it is in a different class altogether. The SHO may be better compared to the RL, although the RL doesn't try to boost the HP like the SHO does - but with AWD and the features, it's the closest thing. The TL is too small to compare...

andy

 

[01svtL]

Yeeea the SHO is a mid-13 second car, period. Why is it that so many "import fans" are magazine racers and start blirting out "facts" that they've read out of a magazine instead of actually obtaining real-world statistics. I'm a "car fan" and have been driving high-performance Ford vehicles pretty much since I could drive. I've seen what the owners of those cars have done w/ them on the track. I've ACTUALLY been to a drag strip and raced my cars. The SHO would literally run circles around an accord through at a drag strip. They have hit 12's w/ just a tune. Get over yourselves.

 

[01svtL]

BTW, I'm fixing to sell my Lightning in order to lease a '10 v6 coupe from my Uncle's dealership. Am I looking forward to it? Not really. The car is nice enough, but don't kid yourselves. The car lacks performance in just about every aspect of the word.

 

[Danielc409]

. The SHO would literally run circles around an accord through at a drag strip. They have hit 12's w/ just a tune. Get over yourselves.

Lol I would hope so with what they are working with under the hood. We all know the accord isn't built to out run anything on the drag strip. We buy Honda because of the value / reliability, not for it's super high performance dragster ability :thumbsdow

 

[01svtL]

Lol I would hope so with what they are working with under the hood. We all know the accord isn't built to out run anything on the drag strip. We buy Honda because of the value / reliability, not for it's super high performance dragster ability :thumbsdow

Right I understand that. Except, the OP somehow feels that 365hp is unimpressive. This entire thread has been about HP and performance. That would be the only reason I said the things that I said. I don't recall the thread being started in regards to reliability .....

 

[Danielc409]

Right I understand that. Except, the OP somehow feels that 365hp is unimpressive. This entire thread has been about HP and performance. That would be the only reason I said the things that I said. I don't recall the thread being started in regards to reliability .....

The comparison is flawed anyways, the OP has this all wrong.

It's like comparing a Civic SI to a Camaro SS.

 

[Edaccord08]

Ford is not sitting still like US car manufactures in the past .

Look at this link and related links (top right) on Fords new tech .
The 6 speed auto seems impressive if it works as good as it sounds .

http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=17995