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My 22 Accord Hybrid Sport just put up an A7 Brake Fluid service code at 25k miles and 22 months since new. Anyone else ever see that in such a young and low mileage Accord?

I’ve never had a vehicle that called for brake fluid that soon.
 
My 22 Accord Hybrid Sport just put up an A7 Brake Fluid service code at 25k miles and 22 months since new. Anyone else ever see that in such a young and low mileage Accord?

I’ve never had a vehicle that called for brake fluid that soon.
That does seem a bit soon. The manual says to change it when the Maintenance Minder displays that code- or every 3 years- whichever happens first.
 
Mine tripped at about 28,000, but had already been getting discolored , being here in the South with our high humidity it’s not a surprise. I also believe on these hybrids that since the brakes don’t work as hard as an all gas car, that they don’t build up anywhere as much brake heat that helps drive the moisture away.
 
My Accord keeps reminding me of maintenance over due with A7. I'm at 5,900. That's right, less than 6k miles. It's been sitting in the garage. First oil change was at 4,973 6/30/2023. I'll reset the minder when I get in that car again.
 
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My Accord keeps reminding me of maintenance over due with A7. I'm at 5,900. That's right, less than 6k miles. It's been sitting in the garage. First oil change was at 4,973 6/30/2023. I'll reset the minder when I get in that car again.
I fully intended to change the brake fluid (whether the Minder came on or not) at about 40k. I just thought that 25k and 22 months was earlier than it should have been. Plus.... most of that is low-speed highway miles (commuting to/fr work) 60mph-ish with no starts/stops 70 miles each way - 4 days a week. So, not only are the brakes young, they're hardly used at all compared a vehicle that lives in the city. But my situation pales in comparison to yours Accordroch! I will probably bite the bullet and have it done.
 
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Wow, mine came up at 100,000 (I'm at 170,000 now)
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Thanks @Sammbpbsb - that's more in line with what I would have expected, given the fact that the Hybrid doesn't use the actual brakes all that much vs. a gas-only Accord - and especially in my case where most of my mileage is a constant speed without a lot of starts and stops.

Couple questions for you:
Is your Gen 10 Hybrid an early year in the 2018-2022 model run (maybe a 18' or a 19')? I'm wondering if Honda changed the software in the Maintenance Minder on later Gen 10's? Mine is a 22, last year of the model run.

A little off-topic here, but I love the fact that you're at 170k miles now! Any other significant maintenance items you've had to deal with?

Thanks!
 
Thanks @Sammbpbsb - that's more in line with what I would have expected, given the fact that the Hybrid doesn't use the actual brakes all that much vs. a gas-only Accord - and especially in my case where most of my mileage is a constant speed without a lot of starts and stops.

Couple questions for you:
Is your Gen 10 Hybrid an early year in the 2018-2022 model run (maybe a 18' or a 19')? I'm wondering if Honda changed the software in the Maintenance Minder on later Gen 10's? Mine is a 22, last year of the model run.

A little off-topic here, but I love the fact that you're at 170k miles now! Any other significant maintenance items you've had to deal with?

Thanks!
To your first question, I have 2019 Hybrid which I got new at the start of Covid in 2020.

To your second question, everything was wonderful up until I reached 162,000... I got a blown headgasket. Symptoms were that one day while I was in stop and go freeway traffic in Socal, when the engine turned on, it started misfiring and engine light started blinking. Pulled off freeway and turned off car then back on and started working like normal. A week later, driving home late at night on freeway in 50° weather, I got a message saying engine temperature near limit, slow down and avoid high acceleration. Made it home, fluids were good, oil, coolant and reservoir for inverter and coolant. Next day checked fluid again and tested it out, did some pulls and got message again. This time, I checked underneath oil fill cap... Milkshake...

I tried going through Honda for a goodwill repair, but they denied it. So had to pay out of pocket, $4,800 for a new headgasket and machining and new plugs.

Car works like normal and MPG is actually a little better, averaging 51MPG, this is freeway driving mostly. This issue really bummed me because I babied it, no hard acceleration, never driving over 85 mph, but I still got this major failure.
 
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Update and closure:
I took the 22 HAH in to my local dealership on Friday. The service manager looked closely at the brake fluid and said that it didn't need to be replaced. In the conversation with him and one of his service techs, it appears that the algorithm in the Minder was updated in the middle of the Gen 10 model run (Gen 10: 2018-2022) so that the 2020-2022 HAH have a Minder that triggers the "7" code (brake fluid) much earlier than the 2018-2019 does. He said that the 2018-2019s wait too long and the 2020-2022s show the code too early. So, just keep an eye on the brake fluid condition (color, etc.) and if you're not sure, take it in and have it checked.
 
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