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Accord. The Integra is basically the Civic Si, however, it uses the L15 block that I really dislike. If Honda did slap the K20 with a manual in the Integra, now that would be a different scenario.


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Accord. The Integra is basically the Civic Si, however, it uses the L15 block that I really dislike. If Honda did slap the K20 with a manual in the Integra, now that would be a different scenario.


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Yep. I’ve seen reviews that say that the Si is actually more sporty. The Integra is slightly more comfortable and quieter.

To me I have no issue with the 1.5t. The HP figure is probably fine for the car that size / weight.
 
While I really like the look of the new Integra... it's too small of a vehicle.... so I'd pick the Accord with the 2.0t... not that you can find one these days...
 
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While I really like the look of the new Integra... it's too small of a vehicle.... so I'd pick the Accord with the 2.0t... not that you can find one these days...
True. For practicality, Accord wins all day (1.5 or 2.0t). The cargo space in the Inegra is very nice due to its hatchback design though.

I'm comparing both since the price point of both are very close to each other, much more so than the TLX vs. Accord.

As far as availability, I think both are hard to find due to current market situations. I've seen reports of 10k+ ADM for the Integra in some parts of US. :LOL: Completely ridiculous!
 
True. For practicality, Accord wins all day (1.5 or 2.0t). The cargo space in the Inegra is very nice due to its hatchback design though.

I'm comparing both since the price point of both are very close to each other, much more so than the TLX vs. Accord.

As far as availability, I think both are hard to find due to current market situations. I've seen reports of 10k+ ADM for the Integra in some parts of US. :LOL: Completely ridiculous!
Oh, don't get me wrong- if I didn't have a family or a house I'd strongly consider the Integra- it's a beautiful car and I assume it's a blast to drive.

My local Acura dealer hasn't had much of anything on the lot for months... other than the same TLX that for some reason won't sell. At most they have maybe three vehicles listed for sale on their website- including that TLX- an A-Spec FWD in Modern Steel with a red interior. Other TLXs have come and gone- usually only appearing on their website for maybe a day or two... but for some reason that A-Spec isn't moving.

I can't imagine paying $45,000+ for a new Integra after a dealer markup. There are much better cars for that price. My local Toyota dealer has a Supra listed for sale- it's got the smaller motor in it- but it's $43,000... and they don't mark up their cars...

For my money... I'd get the base Supra over an Integra with a 10k dealer markup... even if it is a BMW underneath. That just means that it's probably the only 'Toyota' that warrants a long and comprehensive extended warranty.

That dealer actually had a base Supra in the showroom when I bought my Highlander. It was a very nice car that was actually cheaper than my Highlander... but I couldn't imagine struggling to get into and out of that car each day... plus it's not a very good car for Wisconsin winters. Plus I imagine that Toyota likely charges quite a bit for the extended warranty on the Supra given that it's a BMW underneath. Most of the time Toyota extended warranties can be purchased pretty cheaply- given the fact that claim rates are probably so low. They start out pretty expensive- but if you say no the first five times- generally the price falls to less than $1000 for the 8yr/100k mile plan that covers pretty much as much as any extended warranty is going to cover.
 
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Oh, don't get me wrong- if I didn't have a family or a house I'd strongly consider the Integra- it's a beautiful car and I assume it's a blast to drive.

My local Acura dealer hasn't had much of anything on the lot for months... other than the same TLX that for some reason won't sell. At most they have maybe three vehicles listed for sale on their website- including that TLX- an A-Spec FWD in Modern Steel with a red interior. Other TLXs have come and gone- usually only appearing on their website for maybe a day or two... but for some reason that A-Spec isn't moving.

I can't imagine paying $45,000+ for a new Integra after a dealer markup. There are much better cars for that price. My local Toyota dealer has a Supra listed for sale- it's got the smaller motor in it- but it's $43,000... and they don't mark up their cars...

For my money... I'd get the base Supra over an Integra with a 10k dealer markup... even if it is a BMW underneath. That just means that it's probably the only 'Toyota' that warrants a long and comprehensive extended warranty.

That dealer actually had a base Supra in the showroom when I bought my Highlander. It was a very nice car that was actually cheaper than my Highlander... but I couldn't imagine struggling to get into and out of that car each day... plus it's not a very good car for Wisconsin winters. Plus I imagine that Toyota likely charges quite a bit for the extended warranty on the Supra given that it's a BMW underneath. Most of the time Toyota extended warranties can be purchased pretty cheaply- given the fact that claim rates are probably so low. They start out pretty expensive- but if you say no the first five times- generally the price falls to less than $1000 for the 8yr/100k mile plan that covers pretty much as much as any extended warranty is going to cover.
That's why I am strongly considering it. :D

Just kidding, I think I'm finally ready to start the next chapter of my life and settle down now. So if that PHEV Accord I dreamed of doesn't come true, I'm going to keep my 2020 for the long haul, probably over 110k miles until the ext. warranty (which I'll buy for sure if that's the case) runs out.

At this point, I really don't care what the car looks like too much (although 10G still looks good to me from the front), and I've grown to like the rear styling of the car. I don't really care what the naysayers say anyways. With that said, I think not counting manuals, all the new Integra is lacking to make it real fun to me is the 2.0t and 10AT (found in the Accord lol). It'll be tempting if it does come out with that combo in the form of Type S next year. We'll see.

The Supra is definitely a very cool car. It has a lot of road presence every time I see one on the road. It doesn't bother me too much that it has BMW DNA in it. I consider it a more reliable BMW at a lower entry price. :D I haven't driven either, but I think it's really in a different league above the Integra just looking at their specs. It’s also starting at 12k more than the Integra so it should be better. In fact, I don't think Honda actually has any model that competes against it directly, which is why I hope Honda will follow Toyota's blueprint and make a sports car (like S2000) with RWD and optional AT. If they have to team up with somebody like Toyota did with BMW, then so be it.

Paying 10k plus over MSRP for any car to me is absolutely insane. I don't overpay for anything else, let alone for a relatively large purchase like a car purchase.

I didn't know it works like that with Toyota dealers lol. I do say "no" at Honda dealerships, but on the second or third time they usually make me feel like I'm making them lose money on the deal, so I'd just politely decline and walk away.
 
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IMHO the only reason to choose the Integra over the Accord is the hatchback.
That's probably the main selling point, but don't forget the lovely ELS sound system. It's one of the best in the business.

Also the styling is subjective, but at least for the younger crowd, it might look more attractive to them.

It also has the 6MT, which got killed in the Accord. :(
 
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