Bought my accord with brand new MasterCraft LSR Grand touring, the rear was even installed a week before the front, it's now been almost 2 years, or like 3500 miles, and the front are down from like 9/32 to 6.5/32? Fully even wear, but only on both front tires. Someone claimed that a fwd car with a V6 or V8 has much higher front tire wear? I don't do burnouts, the few wheel slips shouldn't have taken half my tread.
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Bought my accord with brand new MasterCraft LSR Grand touring, the rear was even installed a week before the front, it's now been almost 2 years, or like 3500 miles, and the front are down from like 9/32 to 6.5/32? Fully even wear, but only on both front tires. Someone claimed that a fwd car with a V6 or V8 has much higher front tire wear? I don't do burnouts, the few wheel slips shouldn't have taken half my tread.
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Well a rotation would just swap the tires, honestly it kind of makes me wonder if I should leave it and then try to claim warranty when the tires get low, but the car gets low usage, so it would probably take a while for the milage to get low.
It's been replaced with a newer Honda, so it's now my backup car, I've already put a bunch of stuff into it, it's just not worth doing all those alignments, I'd rather buy two almost new tires for $70 in the future when that's needed. It drives straight and smooth otherwise. The mechanic who sold it to me kinda ripped me off by selling it to me with a variety of problems.
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Do you ever rotate the tires?
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Not yet, it only has like 3500 miles, if that, on this set of tires. It shouldn't have taken almost half the usable tread in that time.
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Also, the way you drive plays a role as well.
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Does quick acceleration without wheelspin wear the tires extremely quickly? It was driven with quick acceleration at first.
On a FWD vehicle there are 3 reasons why the front tires wear faster:
1. there is more weight on the front tires due to powertrain
2. the front brakes do more work than the rear brakes
3. the front tires are the "tractive effort" tires
So, the wear is "higher" but not necessarily "much higher."
Interestingly enough, I find Mastercraft LSR Grand Touring tires listed on various websites but NOT on the Passenger, Truck, SUV, & Commercial Tires | Mastercraft Tires website. Do you have 17" or 18" wheels on your Accord? What is the tire size?
1. there is more weight on the front tires due to powertrain
2. the front brakes do more work than the rear brakes
3. the front tires are the "tractive effort" tires
So, the wear is "higher" but not necessarily "much higher."
Interestingly enough, I find Mastercraft LSR Grand Touring tires listed on various websites but NOT on the Passenger, Truck, SUV, & Commercial Tires | Mastercraft Tires website. Do you have 17" or 18" wheels on your Accord? What is the tire size?
I did find SRT Touring tire in 225/50R17 size on the Mastercraft website. No touring tires in 18" size. Looks like they don't make the LSR Grand Touring tire any more. What are the date codes on your tires?
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My brakes don't do shit, they are seized and barely work. I replaced the rear already but I still haven't done the front, so they aren't doing much work.
I have the factory Coupe GT 18" Wheels. 235/45R18.
2020 or 2021. 90% sure it's 2021, the tires were put on at the end of 2021.I did find SRT Touring tire in 225/50R17 size on the Mastercraft website. No touring tires in 18" size. Looks like they don't make the LSR Grand Touring tire any more. What are the date codes on your tires?
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Yes, I bought the car from my mechanic, and it already had LSR Grand touring tires, he claimed the rear made a noise so he would replace them before giving it to me. He did, and said the front is also making a noise, so I brought it back and he gave me two more tires. I did not measure the front tires before and after I took it to him, but either way the rear tires are still basically new tread, and the front were too, they have visibly less tread in the front now.
Honestly those arent the best tires, I know 1st hand of those Mastercrafts I had tires just like it on my 7th gen when I baught it, they ended up having sidewall bubble!! The are probably not as good of a compound as your higher end tire makers. I would rotate them for now and get something a bit better/rated for higher mileage that what you have currently.
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The car gets like 50 miles a month currently, I'm perfectly fine with the tires it has on it, but yeah I'm sure they aren't top $250 tires, I think they are like $125 each. Though comparing to the Goodyear assurance All season $150 tires that came on the crosstour I just bought, they have better grip and less noise, and at least 3 (I didn't get to check the 4th) of those tires came with sidewall bubbles and indents (of course the shitty dealer tried to say there's no way they would ever sell a car that way, but luckily the tire insurance they gave me paid for it). Even in the snow it does fine, I've been happy with the tire, it's just ridiculous that after like 3000 miles, they lost half the usable tread.
I am asking for the date codes on the sidewalls of the tires. That way, you can confirm exactly how old the tires are.
Also, I finally found a listing for the tire on Walmart.com. It looks like that tire was made in 4 different speed ratings, with varying mileage warranties.
"The Mastercraft LSR Grand Touring is a touring all season tire manufactured for passenger and crossover vehicles. Mastercraft offers a 50,000 mile treadwear warranty with the W speed rated sizes, a 70,000 mile warranty for the H and V speed rated sizes and an 80,000 mile tread warranty with the T speed rated sizes."
Robot or human? (I have no idea why DA is labeling Walmart link "Robot or human?"
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Maybe you have the W rated tire - which wears faster.
A few other comments:
1. I would worry about the brakes before worrying about excess treadwear, especially since you said it is even wear.
2. I agree with @scar_cle - I would just get Michelins and be done with it.
3. Treadwear is not linear over the life of the tire. For example, if you have 50K mile tires you don't have 1/2 of the usable tread gone after 25K miles. The tread wear rate is initially higher (more flexing, etc) and then it slows down.
Also, I finally found a listing for the tire on Walmart.com. It looks like that tire was made in 4 different speed ratings, with varying mileage warranties.
"The Mastercraft LSR Grand Touring is a touring all season tire manufactured for passenger and crossover vehicles. Mastercraft offers a 50,000 mile treadwear warranty with the W speed rated sizes, a 70,000 mile warranty for the H and V speed rated sizes and an 80,000 mile tread warranty with the T speed rated sizes."
Robot or human? (I have no idea why DA is labeling Walmart link "Robot or human?"
)Maybe you have the W rated tire - which wears faster.
A few other comments:
1. I would worry about the brakes before worrying about excess treadwear, especially since you said it is even wear.
2. I agree with @scar_cle - I would just get Michelins and be done with it.
3. Treadwear is not linear over the life of the tire. For example, if you have 50K mile tires you don't have 1/2 of the usable tread gone after 25K miles. The tread wear rate is initially higher (more flexing, etc) and then it slows down.
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They are all 48/20, as I previously guessed. And it says A11R For the rating. Regardless, no tire should wear that quickly even if it was a fast wear cheap model.I am asking for the date codes on the sidewalls of the tires. That way, you can confirm exactly how old the tires are.
Also, I finally found a listing for the tire on Walmart.com. It looks like that tire was made in 4 different speed ratings, with varying mileage warranties.
"The Mastercraft LSR Grand Touring is a touring all season tire manufactured for passenger and crossover vehicles. Mastercraft offers a 50,000 mile treadwear warranty with the W speed rated sizes, a 70,000 mile warranty for the H and V speed rated sizes and an 80,000 mile tread warranty with the T speed rated sizes."
Maybe you have the W rated tire - which wears faster.
A couple of other comments:
1. I would worry about the brakes before worrying about excess treadwear, especially since you said it is even wear.
2. I agree with @scar_cle - I would just get Michelins and be done with it.
3. Treadwear is not linear over the life of the tire. For example, if you have 50K mile tires you don't have 1/2 of the usable tread gone after 25K miles. The tread wear rate is initially higher (more flexing, etc) and then it slows down.
I'm not worried about the excess wear, was just wondering if anyone else's experience, and disappointed that the new tires are already wearing that hard, yet only on the front.
I have new front rotors, but I will end up needing new calipers as they are what's seized just like the rear, so I haven't done them yet. I'll have to get some new calipers and do it when it's cool, and hopefully all 4 new brakes fixes that problem. I'll buy two almost new tires, probably of the same model to match, once they get really low.
That was 10% of your guess.
Yes. Hard acceleration and cornering both wear tires much faster than 'normal' driving.
So, overall, I think it is a combination of your initial driving style and also that you may need a wheel alignment. If you have excessive toe-in or toe-out that will scrub your front tires and can wear them down very quickly.
"Additionally the vehicle's toe is one of the most critical alignment settings relative to tire wear. A toe setting that is just a little off its appropriate setting can make a huge difference in their wear. Consider that if the toe setting is just 1/16-inch off of its appropriate setting, each tire on that axle will scrub almost seven feet sideways every mile! Extend it out and you'll discover that rather than running parallel to each other, the front tires will scrub over 1/4-mile sideways during every 100 miles of driving! Incorrect toe will rob you of tire life."
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I honestly wouldn't be surprised if it's just another thing to add to the list of problems with that car. The car runs reliably but it was my first car so I didn't know better to look for certain things and ended up basically getting scammed by the mechanic that my family used for like 8-10 years prior. It's probably not worth fixing to be honest.That was 10% of your guess.
Yes. Hard acceleration and cornering both wear tires much faster than 'normal' driving.
So, overall, I think it is a combination of your initial driving style and also that you may need a wheel alignment. If you have excessive toe-in or toe-out that will scrub your front tires and can wear them down very quickly.
"Additionally the vehicle's toe is one of the most critical alignment settings relative to tire wear. A toe setting that is just a little off its appropriate setting can make a huge difference in their wear. Consider that if the toe setting is just 1/16-inch off of its appropriate setting, each tire on that axle will scrub almost seven feet sideways every mile! Extend it out and you'll discover that rather than running parallel to each other, the front tires will scrub over 1/4-mile sideways during every 100 miles of driving! Incorrect toe will rob you of tire life."
Getting the wheel alignment done costs less in the long run than wearing out your tires that fast.
We just got new tires on our truck back in March. I had an alignment done the next day . . . . I asked them to get the toe setting right at the setpoint and not just in the "green zone" (within the +/- tolerance).
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I don't have a mechanic, I can't trust the one that I bought. The car from, he's the one who tells me that my all 4 seized brakes are working perfectly. If I find one and the price is fair, maybe I can do it. Tires are $70 for 2 + installation in probably 8000 Miles. And like you said, the driving at the beginning probably increased it.
For your reference, here is some tire wear data to give you a feel for what 'normal' wear should be. I just found this info for our daughter's Accord.
Tires - Michelin Defender T+H P215/60 R16 SL (tread depth when new 10/32")
After 2 years, 42,502 miles the tires were 8/32"
Tires - Michelin Defender T+H P215/60 R16 SL (tread depth when new 10/32")
After 2 years, 42,502 miles the tires were 8/32"
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