[gstephen70]

As you can see, my mother must have had some paint chipping over the years which was repaired at some point. However, like all half-assed jobs, it needs to be done again, correctly. Here's a couple of pics. I was planning on prep/sand/fill/paint/clear. I have also had three estimates by different body shops. Two said I could paint, one said I needed to replace the hood as the rust was coming from the inside of the hood. I don't think that is true, as the seals are still holding.

What would you suggest? As the hood is rather large, and the affected area is small, I was hoping to get away with a touch-up and spray clear.

I've also gotten the name of the shop that does the CPO cars for the dealer and may drive over to see him.

TIA for your advice.

 

[povy]

To repair it you'll need to sand it down all the way to the metal. Then primer it and start over. I'm going to have to do the same thing to my car. The factory paint job on mine is awful.

 

[gstephen70]

To repair it you'll need to sand it down all the way to the metal. Then primer it and start over. I'm going to have to do the same thing to my car. The factory paint job on mine is awful.

Yeah, I figured that. I've emailed pictures to two different shops and I'll let you know what they say. One of the shops is where the dealer has their CPO cars touched up.

 

[gstephen70]

Well, turns out the shop that does CPO Honda's tells me with the damage done, any repair would be futile as the rust will be back within a few months. He quoted me $1,000 using a CAPA hood. He also will be blending the front as the paint is almost ten years old.

As I am not about to spend $1,000, I'll just let it rust. I'll try to sand down the rust spots and apply a clearcoat to hopefully inhibit any additional rust damage.

On another note, if anyone happens to come across a hood for a '03 Sedan V6 in Graphite, please let me know. I will check the local junk yards myself.

Does anyone remember the website where you can search for parts online? I remember doing it, but don't know the name of the site.

Thanks.

 

[CarlR33]

This is a weak spot on these cars. Mine is starting to do the same thing as yours and will probably look the same over time.

I think moisture gets trapped inside the seam on the underside of the hood and rusts.

I would guess any hood in the yard will be looking the same way.

I have thought about putting a black carbon fiber type hood but have not reaseached the price. Probably more than I want to spend.

 

[frenzal]

Removing the plastic thing at the end of the hood will help in the long run (water/humidity gets trapped in the plastic thing...)

Also, when there are bubbles like that and the paint is lifting, the rust has already done it's damage. You'd have to replace with a new piece of metal, weld it in place and then paint... So probably a new hood would be the best solution...

 

[JSchleim18]

It's worth a shot but I am no expert on paint repair. You can sand the hood down to the bare metal and apply a thin coat of POR15 to it. It'll stop the rust from getting any bigger than it is. Then primer and paint over it.

http://www.por15.com/

Also, the webpage for junk yard parts is car-part.com

 

[gstephen70]

This is a weak spot on these cars. Mine is starting to do the same thing as yours and will probably look the same over time.

I think moisture gets trapped inside the seam on the underside of the hood and rusts.

I would guess any hood in the yard will be looking the same way.

I have thought about putting a black carbon fiber type hood but have not reaseached the price. Probably more than I want to spend.

That's what the first body shop said happens. Moisture gets trapped and rust from inside out. ****s big time. Wonder if there is a TSB or a recall as the shop the dealer uses said he's seen this alot. I'm not gonna replace the hood and have it painted for $1,000. I can buy a hood on RockAuto for $110. CAPA certified. It's the painting and the blending that runs the bill up.

 

[///M_Powerholic]

Foil it ..

 

[yi3o8]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2003-2004-2...t=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr&hash=item2c61805172#ht_1939wt_1096

Can't vouch for the quality, am thinking of doing this for a bumper. At worst it might need some 2000 grit wetsanding and a little polishing... but no idea on it's longevity.

 

[JSchleim18]

^^Problem with that is the paint on the new hood will be newer than his paint on the whole car so it may end up sticking out like a sore thumb.

 

[SatinSilver]

Isn't there some long warranty on rust and corrosion? Maybe it falls under that.

 

[drozzin]

I'm happy I don't have to deal with rust on my hood since it's aluminium one. But boy it's very expensive if it's damaged in accident. I replaced one already due to separated truck tire tread landed on my car's nose on a highway.

 

[1-Old-Man]

I would fix it myself, but I have been doing body work and custom painting (as a hobby) for half a century. The real question you have to answer before you decide on replacement or repair is what is the actual origin of the rust. If it is in fact coming from stone chips on the outside then repair it, but if it began from the inside, by something trapping water down at the edge of the hood, then you are going to want to replace it.

In any event if you don't want to spend the money to replace it you need to get it ground (you won't be able to sand it deep enough by hand) down to bare metal and then you need to seal the metal with a waterproof "primer" before doing anything else. When I said waterproof primer I mean one product and one product only - that would be an epoxy sealer/primer - not a paint primer, not anything that comes in a rattle can. You can buy a relatively inexpensive epoxy (PPG Omni 140) in pint cans at just about any automotive parts store (or on line from TCP-Global) that specializes in paints or an automotive paint store. Once its been sealed then you apply your filler (you'll need to skim it to fix the gouging from the grinding) and then your high build primer (paint, not epoxy) over that before actually doing your touchup painting. The key is in that epoxy sealer, it will stop the rust from coming back on you. If you don't use the sealer you are just waisting your time and money.

 

[CarlR33]

I did check at one time on a rust warrenty. I think the Honda dealer said at the time it was five years?

It does rust from the inside. I have sanded mine down numerous times to the bare metal and primed/painted it with it only coming back after a few months.

 

[redbullfan]

Doesnt Honda give a 10 year corrosion warranty?? Wouldnt that cover the damages?

 

[MM49]

This is a weak spot on these cars. Mine is starting to do the same thing as yours and will probably look the same over time.

I think moisture gets trapped inside the seam on the underside of the hood and rusts.

I would guess any hood in the yard will be looking the same way.

I have thought about putting a black carbon fiber type hood but have not reaseached the price. Probably more than I want to spend.

Yup! I saw few early 7th gen models and there hood is rusting in the same spot but the rest of the body is fine. It is because of that "rubber thing" on it which is causing it to rest. Just last week I took it out and cleaned everything underneath it, greased that area up and finally put that rubber thing back on:banana:

 

[mgartner0622]

Doesnt Honda give a 10 year corrosion warranty?? Wouldnt that cover the damages?

Isn't it 5 year/unlimited mileage?

 

[gstephen70]

Thanks for the info. Glad to see others have the same rust damage. It comes from the inside. The body shop showed me the lip where water is entering. I'll need to remove and sand if I choose to go that route. I'd like to get Honda to recognize this as an issue affecting more than just my car and eat the cost to repair and replace. I don't know how this would work, but if anyone has experience getting Honda to bend to our will, please let me know. If I've got to get signatures from other owners, I am willing to head-up that undertaking.

Short of Honda repairing, I'll most likely go with a eBay painted hood. Believe it or not, I've replaced the front and rear bumpers and they look great. I did compound them to so as to blend, but for the price, they were well worth it. It's funny, the lip that is supposed to keep water out is actually letting water in.

As I type this, there are two Graphite Honda Accords, besides mine, sitting outside. Hehe:naughty:

Any other advice, I am happy to hear it.

 

[CarlR33]

If I've got to get signatures from other owners, I am willing to head-up that undertaking.

I don't think or expect Honda to back a car nearly 10 years old and 209K miles. At some point, the car will rust and yes, this is their weaker spot.