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OK, folks. This is a minor one but makes life easier before the winter sets in.

Ordered from http://www.canadianhondaparts.com/P...px?model=ACCORD&year=2011&doors=2door&grade=EXL-V6_(NV)&cat=electrical&illid=60 as they have a nice web site and ship to the US.

The bottle itself (76841-TA5-C01) is $30. A new cap (76802-S01-C02) with the proper length is not really needed. A longer hose (76832-TA5-C01) is required but you could get one cut to length locally (850mm).

1 - Remove front passenger side tire and fender liner
2 - Disconnect pump motor electrical connection
3 - Disconnect pump hose and let drain into a bucket
4 - Pull hose out of three clips, remove hose at joint
5 - Remove clip at washer mouth
6 - Remove 3 10mm bolts
7 - Remove bottle
8 - Move pump and its bushing to new bottle
9 - Put 1" rubber plug in level sensor hole
10 - Install new bottle, attach motor electrical connection
11 - Install new hose
12 - Reinstall fender liner (hardest part)

I just poured a full gallon of fluid in! :banana:

*I did get the level sensor. Will work on this. The instrument cluster does not have the LED but does have the wire going from there over to the passenger foot well.
 

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Wow, why is that all you get up there? Good choice in upgrading.
No, the US version is the teeny tiny 1.85 quart version. The Canadian one is 1+ gallons.

I may have to do this, as it seems that I have to refill the reservoir every 3-4 days. Very annoying.

On another note: I wonder why the Canadian version gets the bigger capacity? I mean most of the northern half of the US gets snow and has to deal with salty roads. I mean, why not make a part like this standard on all North American models? Seems like a weird way of cost cutting when you have to stock and inventory two separate parts that do the exact same thing; hold washer fluid.
 
*I did get the level sensor. Will work on this. The instrument cluster does not have the LED but does have the wire going from there over to the passenger foot well.
Please keep us updated on getting the fluid level indicator on the IP to work. I have wanted to do this modification since I pretty much bought my car. If you look at the IP from an angle with bright light or sunlight shining on it the right way, you can see the outlines of all the warning indicators. I do know there is an outline of the low fluid indicator on our USA IPs. It's a window with dotted lines representing the fluid spray, and it's right in the middle of the IP between the tach and speedometer, about half way up (for you automatic transmission owners it's right above the PRND strip).

Definitely let us know if/how you get the low fluid indicator to work!
 
Discussion starter · #6 ·
I think that I have got most of the indicator figured out. The LED isn't there but, as noted, the symbol is. I wasn't able to pull the needles off the instrument cluster but I think I can still squeeze an LED in there. Then attach to 5v supply on the back and a resistor to pin 8. There is a blue wire from pin 8 for this that goes over to the passenger side foot well. It just doesn't extend to the engine bay for US versions. Tap that blue wire and take it to the sensor along with a ground and that should be it.

All US available parts:
Sensor - 76835-SHJ-C01 $15
Bushing - 76809-S84-C02 $5
Dummy harness to get the connector - 08V31-TA6-30031 $11

I need to find the right brightness for the LED as well. I got a couple from Radio Shack to try.

Anyway, that's the design. Will try to get back to it next week.
 
Yea I like having a LARGE capacity tank in my car. Especially now that is hovering around 0 degrees C and there is a tonne of spray! BTW nice site!
 
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I guess I never finished this thread. I did get the low washer fluid light working but took some effort. For this you definitely need skills with a soldering iron (not soldering gun).

To make it as factory as possible I replaced the passenger side engine wiring harness with the Canadian Accord. This took me an entire weekend and several bloody knuckles but it all fit. It would have been much easier to use the connector from the dummy harness mentioned previously. Would have just needed to run a wire from the bottle to the blue wire at the passenger foot well (pin 20 on C202) along with a ground. That blue wire goes over to the gauge cluster in pin 8 to feed the light.

For the dash work I removed the gauge cluster and its back cover. Poked a hole in the white plastic to slip the LED in under the circuit board (bent the leads 90Âş so it points to the front). Cut pin 8 off at the board and soldered on end to negative terminal of LED.



For power I tapped the +5v regulator that is only on with the ignition. I put in the resistor as required. Heat shrink tubing all around.



I used Radio Shack 276-0316 LED with a 100 ohm resistor.

Snapped it all together and it worked the 3rd time!

The blue bulb but doesn't show well in pic but is much better than the white one I started with.



What I found is that when the light goes off I still have quite a bit of fluid as I can not add a full gallon. So I give it a couple of days with the light on then do the impressive feat of pouring an entire gallon of fluid in!
 
I know my car definitely has bigger than 1.85 qt. I have to pour in round abouts 96 oz to fill it up all the way.

I imagine a hack that just "bloats" the filler neck to add capacity.
 
Maybe we discovered an additional modification made to later year 8g's (larger washer bottle)?
 
Thanks! Can you post a picture of where the blue wire is? Is this the level sensor that triggers the light?
 
Hello Stuff
This might be a silly question, but how did you figure out that the blue wire in the passenger footwell goes to the instrument cluster and its extension goes to the level sensor in the engine bay?
 
you can also use the crosstour washer fluid tank it holds 1.5 gallons and is much easier/cheaper to get. it also has markings on it where the level sensor goes if you want to add it.
 
No, the US version is the teeny tiny 1.85 quart version. The Canadian one is 1+ gallons.

I may have to do this, as it seems that I have to refill the reservoir every 3-4 days. Very annoying.

On another note: I wonder why the Canadian version gets the bigger capacity? I mean most of the northern half of the US gets snow and has to deal with salty roads. I mean, why not make a part like this standard on all North American models? Seems like a weird way of cost cutting when you have to stock and inventory two separate parts that do the exact same thing; hold washer fluid.
Honda sells about 15-20 times as many Accords in the States than in Canada (Civic is the best-seller in Canada) so although they would need to hold two parts, they can still save tons of $$$ by going with a cheaper part for the States.

PS: I have had my car 2 yrs, 2 brutal Canadian winters, and have changed the fluid just once. :banana:
 
Discussion starter · #18 ·
Hello Stuff
This might be a silly question, but how did you figure out that the blue wire in the passenger footwell goes to the instrument cluster and its extension goes to the level sensor in the engine bay?
I picked up the Electrical Troubleshooting manual. It includes all north and south American models so it shows the blue wire connections.
 
Hello Stuff
This might be a silly question, but how did you figure out that the blue wire in the passenger footwell goes to the instrument cluster and its extension goes to the level sensor in the engine bay?
I picked up the Electrical Troubleshooting manual. It includes all north and south American models so it shows the blue wire connections.
Thanks Stuff. Where did you get the electrical troubleshooting manual from? Mine is 2013 v6. where can I find one for this?
 
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