[prepreludesh]

Hey everybody. Went outside and took the 30 seconds or whatnot to install this panel filter. I'm not sure of the difference it's going to make in engine characteristics, but I plan to unleash a small slew of very minor upgrades in the hopes that it'll increase the Accord's fuel economy 1 to 2 MPG. In future threads, I will document my success/failure with synthetic oil, pulse plugs, ground wire kits and a larger battery.

But for now, here's the quick pictoral history of this easy install.



Unclip the 3 tabs that hold down the top of the box to the bottom.

Here is the OEM paper filter

The differences in the K&N and OEM filters are obvious. It is easy to see the K&N is less restrictive being more shallow.

Shazam.

 

[Honda247]

I'm cleaning mine right now. I'll post a DIY when i'm done. This will help those who never cleaned one b4......

 

[bruceleroy]

where did you order it from?

 

[orion]

how do you clean it or do you have to replace it as a whole?

 

[Markus]

The depth of the filter has nothing to do with air flow restriction. You're argument is invalid. Using your logic the Honda filter is less restrictive because it has (as seen in a later photo) more surface area.

When I was employed in the automotive engineering industry (Jaguar, Ford, BMW) I was privy to test results of air filters of all kinds on air flow meters. Not a single OEM filter was a restriction for the vehicle for which on which it was employed. Using air flow meters, BTW, is a far more accurate way to measure differences in filter restriction than is ANY dyno. Dyno results can be affected by a myriad of factors.

 

[damadazkikr]

rnt those k&n filters less restrictive meaning worse for ur engine...?

 

[StudmasterSteve]

^ No they are fine, they provide more air through but with the same or better cleaning ablilities as the stock one.

 

[Honda247]

Heres my DIY thread on cleaning and reoiling....
http://www.driveaccord.net/forums/showthread.php?t=26145

 

[Aviography]

The differences in the K&N and OEM filters are obvious. It is easy to see the K&N is less restrictive being more shallow.

WRONG!

The depth of the filter has nothing to do with air flow restriction. You're argument is invalid. Using your logic the Honda filter is less restrictive because it has (as seen in a later photo) more surface area.

Well said, it was exactly what I wished to state until I saw Markus's reply.

When I was employed in the automotive engineering industry (Jaguar, Ford, BMW) I was privy to test results of air filters of all kinds on air flow meters. Not a single OEM filter was a restriction for the vehicle for which on which it was employed. Using air flow meters, BTW, is a far more accurate way to measure differences in filter restriction than is ANY dyno. Dyno results can be affected by a myriad of factors.

There was a very recently link (http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/airfilter/airtest1.htm) posted by Benjiboy650 (who is one of the Mods here) just yesterday which provided a scientifically produced report of various filters including OEM, generic aftermarket, and K&N, there is very little difference in actual restriction, and unless your engine can actually take advantage of the extra airflow, the very slightly lower restriction of the K&N type filter means next to nothing in improving the engine performane.

 

[damadazkikr]

do they make a difference in sound?

 

[mattchatwin]

I have the K&N as well and did it because I have an 08 and at the time that was THE only "mod" available. The sound diff is very slight though I absolutely notice it at the high end, some may not notice the diff but I do a lot of sound editing so my ears might be a little more tuned to differences in tone. It's a cheap $60 feel good mod that won't void your warranty in any way or mess up your engine as some people say. They're fully certified and even sold at my Honda dealership. Believe what you want, it's not bad for your car, but it won't make hardly any difference in power or sound that's noticable either. Wait for the short RAM or CAI in my opinion.

 

[craziexstylez]

I can't see the picture please fix it!

 

[prepreludesh]

It's fixed!

 

[dtraill27]

what are the advantages of using this vs the oem filter?

 

[craziexstylez]

it's reusable I think. Pretty expansive vs the oem.

 

[dtraill27]

yeah i read that on their website. i cant really see it increasing my horsepower though

 

[98LSI]

here is my theory on this,

A. i hear people all the time talk crap about the K&N, and i also see people on the other side of the table, do what you want until someone actually shows a flow chart on either, not this "no i have seen it" or "i have read" lets see some science here.

B. over the life of the car, you will definentally save money changing over to a K&N since they are reusable, i have their FIPK on my camaro and i am still reusing the same filter, i buy a recharge kit every year or two. thing is tho, the FIPK for my camaro replaces the entire intake and it does add power by smoothing out some things but it isn't a huge increase.

either way i think they are the way to go, they are re-usable, and soooo easy to clean, one tip tho, when you are waiting for it to dry, use a blow dryer, i set mine on the ground and point the blow dryer at it and it takes about 30 mins to dry, so, about as long as it would take to go to the store buy one and come home.

 

[dtraill27]

i wasnt trying to say anything bad about them i was just wondering if there were any other advantages besides it being reusable

i was thinking about getting one for my car and wanted to know what to expect

 

[PMCErnie]

what are the advantages of using this vs the oem filter?

Some folks like to tinker, but...if it got better fuel milage, Honda (and other makers) would OEM these K&N filters in a heartbeat. Sadly, it does not, so they dun't.

 

[98LSI]

well i don't know about that whole using them in a heartbeat, they do have to limit what they use and how they use it. i mean if they do make better suspension products out there right?? tires?? stereo's?? i mean if they used the best of what they could find, you would be buying a masseratti lol, either way take it for what it's worth, worst case scenario, you are saving money, oh and PCMErnie, i'm not trying to get in a pissing contest with you either, thanks.

oh and not really targeting you, and honestly because i have never seen anything but the cool flow thing you find in some auto parts stores, how do you, or anybody know they don't flow better?? or increase MPG?? where is this on paper?? i would like to see it, and i'm sure the whole world would like to as well, because if they didn't to some extent, wouldn't it be false advertising on K&N's part, and wouldn't they be held liable?? i don't know, i am not saying they do, or will increase anything, but i am saying i have yet to see anything on paper showing they won't either.