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I took delivery on a Sport L this past weekend. I knew going in a spare (temp) tire wasn't standard. But I was surprised to learn, you couldn't even buy one from Honda. At least when I searched on their online site for 2023 Accords. What is strange I thought, underneath the "fix a flat" compartment the well is certainly deep/large enough to hold one. Any thoughts from the community?
 
You can buy the spare tire that would normally come in the non-Hybrid models and it will fit in the trunk well perfectly.

 
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You can buy the spare tire that would normally come in the non-Hybrid models and it will fit in the trunk well perfectly.

Thanks for the info
 
You can buy a 17" donut from a 10th-gen, plus the tie-down bolt, both from eBay. I did, and they fit perfectly, and cost less than $150. I had an old OEM jack and tire iron lying around...

You'll also need some kind of "floor" on top of the spare, to stabilize the trunk floor, but I kludged it out of a piece of old fiberboard (like the backing of a poster frame). Done.
 
Do yourself a favor and keep searching here for the thread that has all of the part numbers needed to put together a ‘genuine’ spare tire kit. I put together everything for mine (touring 19”) for 270 dollars. Probably weighs 40 pounds I would guess. This all genuine OEM pieces and looks like it belongs in your car ie: no poster board.
I took delivery on a Sport L this past weekend. I knew going in a spare (temp) tire wasn't standard. But I was surprised to learn, you couldn't even buy one from Honda. At least when I searched on their online site for 2023 Accords. What is strange I thought, underneath the "fix a flat" compartment the well is certainly deep/large enough to hold one. Any thoughts from the community?
 
Makes sense. The battery pack alone is around 250lbs.
Wow! I didn't think it weighed that much. It is only 1.3 KWh. The Tesla batteries are between 50 and 100 KWh. I know the Tesla batteries weigh between 1000 and 1700 lbs. depending on model. The Toyota Prius battery weighs about 120 lbs. Why is the Honda battery so heavy?
 
Do yourself a favor and keep searching here for the thread that has all of the part numbers needed to put together a ‘genuine’ spare tire kit... no poster board.
What part of the OEM kit goes over the tire to reinforce the trunk floor?

Or is it just the folding carpeted floor on top of the tire? (That seemed impossibly flimsy to me.)


The battery pack alone is around 250lbs.
Wow! I didn't think it weighed that much.
It doesn't. The weight difference between an EX and EX-L is only 188lbs, and virtually all of that is on the front axle. (I base this on Honda's weight specs and some sixth-grade math.)

It's the starter/motor/generator that's heavy, not the battery.

FWIW, I'm not happy to make my car heavier, but at least a spare tire adds weight low and in the rear and contributes to better balance.
 
What part of the OEM kit goes over the tire to reinforce the trunk floor?

Or is it just the folding carpeted floor on top of the tire? (That seemed impossibly flimsy to me.)
It's that first listed item (84542-TVA-A10, Box). It's a large foam piece that sits on top of the spare tire. It has openings for the jack, and handle. It provides a flat surface for the folding carpeted floor to sit on top of. It's much like what you have now except it is cut out to sit on, and accommodate the spare tire.

 
It's that first listed item (84542-TVA-A10, Box).
Aha... I appreciate the photo.

I'll keep my $32.75, and I think I managed the lower the center part of the trunk floor (and increase trunk volume) by a fraction of an inch, too. I have got all that stuff tucked into the spare tire itself...
 
What part of the OEM kit goes over the tire to reinforce the trunk floor?

Or is it just the folding carpeted floor on top of the tire? (That seemed impossibly flimsy to me.)






It doesn't. The weight difference between an EX and EX-L is only 188lbs, and virtually all of that is on the front axle. (I base this on Honda's weight specs and some sixth-grade math.)

It's the starter/motor/generator that's heavy, not the battery.

FWIW, I'm not happy to make my car heavier, but at least a spare tire adds weight low and in the rear and contributes to better balance.
Although Larry answered, I will add that Honda calls it a tool box. There are two different part numbers for the foam tool box, depending upon which size spare tire you keep. The 18” rim for the cars equipped with 19” alloys or another foam for the smaller spare rim (16”?) for the cars equipped with 17” alloys.
I found the tool box to be really beneficial in that it fits like a glove, holds the jack, lug wrench, and jack extension nice and snug without rattles. Also built like your original foam to support the trunk floor.
This foam tool box is one item you do NOT want to purchase online as the box is huge and shipping charge very expensive. Best to have a local dealer order it so that there is no shipping charge incurred.
 
There are two different part numbers for the foam tool box, depending upon which size spare tire you keep. The 18” rim for the cars equipped with 19” alloys or another foam for the smaller spare rim (16”?) for the cars equipped with 17” alloys.
That's weird... I would've thought that there'd be only one size for gen 11, because the hybrids all have the same brakes and the EX-L's 17" wheel fits over those.

I found the tool box to be really beneficial in that it fits like a glove, holds the jack, lug wrench, and jack extension nice and snug without rattles. Also built like your original foam to support the trunk floor.
Yeah, but I've had those in my last couple Subarus, and they all wound up in the attic (and then the recycling) because I wanted full-size spare tires and the foam is a waste of space...

It's just as easy to wrap tools and whatever in old towels (which come in handy in a pinch).
 
What part of the OEM kit goes over the tire to reinforce the trunk floor?

Or is it just the folding carpeted floor on top of the tire? (That seemed impossibly flimsy to me.)






It doesn't. The weight difference between an EX and EX-L is only 188lbs, and virtually all of that is on the front axle. (I base this on Honda's weight specs and some sixth-grade math.)

It's the starter/motor/generator that's heavy, not the battery.

FWIW, I'm not happy to make my car heavier, but at least a spare tire adds weight low and in the rear and contributes to better balance.
So, the battery pack alone is 188lbs? The weight of one medium sized passenger. Add the spare to that equation and you’re over 200lbs.

I think a brand new Accord deserves better than tools wrapped in old towels. However, that’s just me though. I can be picky like that with new cars. lol.
 
Wow! I didn't think it weighed that much. It is only 1.3 KWh. The Tesla batteries are between 50 and 100 KWh. I know the Tesla batteries weigh between 1000 and 1700 lbs. depending on model. The Toyota Prius battery weighs about 120 lbs. Why is the Honda battery so heavy?
I got that figure from on here. However, it may have been wrong, but it is still substantial. The weight of medium sized passenger.
 
Although Larry answered, I will add that Honda calls it a tool box. There are two different part numbers for the foam tool box, depending upon which size spare tire you keep. The 18” rim for the cars equipped with 19” alloys or another foam for the smaller spare rim (16”?) for the cars equipped with 17” alloys.
I just went through the spare tire thread. I didn't see any 18" tire sizes mentioned, just a T135/80D-17 (25.50"), and one person mentioned a T135/90D-17 (26.56"). Seems that 90 series spare would be a better fit for the 19" wheels. Will it fit in the spare tire well?
 
Sorry Larry. I didn’t proofread which is a pet peeve of mine. I should have stated 17” space saver spare. 17” donut is used on the models which came with 19” alloys. I believe (don’t know, don’t own) that the cars that have 17” alloys had a space saver donut with a rim size of 16”. Don’t quote me. 😃

Either way, there are two different foam tool boxes available, for fitment to two different size spares.
 
Sorry Larry. I didn’t proofread which is a pet peeve of mine. I should have stated 17” space saver spare. 17” donut is used on the models which came with 19” alloys. I believe (don’t know, don’t own) that the cars that have 17” alloys had a space saver donut with a rim size of 16”. Don’t quote me. 😃

Either way, there are two different foam tool boxes available, for fitment to two different size spares.
Got it, Thanks.(y)
 
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