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Hi. A week ago I purchased a 2003 Honda Accord EX with 155,000 Miles on it. I love the car, however last night I had the MIL come on. This morning I ran the codes at AutoZone and it registered a P0240 Error. My Accord is a 4 cylinder, Manual Trans., and just a LEV NOT ULEV.

A few things I have questions about that I am hoping you all can help me with; thank you in advance.

Right before driving the vehicle I put Windshield wiper fluid in the reservoir and spilled quite a bit of it around that area. Could this have triggered such an error by chance?

I am fairly good with working on my own vehicles however I want advice on what my next step should be. The Code suggests the following:

"Catalyst System Efficiency Below Threshold (Bank 1)
- A/F Ratio Concern
- Air Leak Near HO2S (Heated Oxygen Sensor) (Bank 1)
- Ignition System Concern
- Faulty Catalytic Converter"

Is there anyway to reset the light and perhaps see if it comes back on again?
Would a cleaning agent such as Seafoam possibly resolve the problem?

I really appreciate any help with this matter and apologize for the lengthy post.

EDIT: Also, could this be something to do with the Service Bulletin "03-063". Please see attached.
 

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If you search "p0420" in the 7th gen section there are a total off 22 threads to read through. If you search it in "the honda accord lab" there are 28 threads. I imagine at least one of those threads will help.

Right before driving the vehicle I put Windshield wiper fluid in the reservoir and spilled quite a bit of it around that area. Could this have triggered such an error by chance?
I really doubt it since p0420 is more of an internal code. There is another code that has more to do with the wiring of the 02 sensor.


Is there anyway to reset the light and perhaps see if it comes back on again?
I would ASSume that autozone cleared if after they checked the code. They do this most all of the time.


Would a cleaning agent such as Seafoam possibly resolve the problem?
I doubt it, and it may make it worse.
 
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I appreciate your prompt response. They did not clear the code and the light was still on when I drove it home this morning. Is there anyway I could clear it myself?

Thanks again for all your help.
 
Hi. A week ago I purchased a 2003 Honda Accord EX with 155,000 Miles on it. I love the car, however last night I had the MIL come on. This morning I ran the codes at AutoZone and it registered a P0240 Error. My Accord is a 4 cylinder, Manual Trans., and just a LEV NOT ULEV.

A few things I have questions about that I am hoping you all can help me with; thank you in advance.

Right before driving the vehicle I put Windshield wiper fluid in the reservoir and spilled quite a bit of it around that area. Could this have triggered such an error by chance?

I am fairly good with working on my own vehicles however I want advice on what my next step should be. The Code suggests the following:

"Catalyst System Efficiency Below Threshold (Bank 1)
- A/F Ratio Concern
- Air Leak Near HO2S (Heated Oxygen Sensor) (Bank 1)
- Ignition System Concern
- Faulty Catalytic Converter"

Is there anyway to reset the light and perhaps see if it comes back on again?
Would a cleaning agent such as Seafoam possibly resolve the problem?

I really appreciate any help with this matter and apologize for the lengthy post.

EDIT: Also, could this be something to do with the Service Bulletin "03-063". Please see attached.

Well based on what you had said, i have to say, that it sounds like whomever sold it to you did the "battery disconnect" trick, to shut off the check engine light. If thats the case, all of this stuff was wrong from the previous owner, and now that a week went by, the codes are reading like this again...WHo did you buy it from?
I had the CEL light go on for my car 2 weeks after i baught it, but it was just a sensor in the radiator...part cost 20$
 
They did not clear the code and the light was still on when I drove it home this morning. Is there anyway I could clear it myself?
That is surprising. The easiest way is to remove the negative terminal from the battery for at least ten minutes. Make sure you have your radio code befoer doing it though.

Another way IIRC, there is an ECU fuse in the engine bay and you can pull that, turn accessories on for a minute or two, turn it off, and replace the fuse. I think that's the way it goes. :dunno:
 
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scar_cle I bought it from a local honda dealership here. I do not think I am protected by any scam laws given that I do not have proof that they erased the code temporarily. I am going to get it checked out on Friday and see what the next step is? Is there a possibility that driving it could hurt until then? Thanks again.
 
A lot of misinformation in this thread...

First, reset the code and see if it comes back. if it does, then you have some trouble shooting to do.

If the code comes back, I would start at the spark plugs and coils. make sure the plugs look clean (ie no black build up, not oily, and correctly gapped) plugs tell you alot about the health of your engine.
If everything checks out there, check fuel pressure.
Then check for exhaust leaks.

The car is in the range for a catalytic converter replacement but that doesnt mean you should just jump right to it if your car has another issue.

Second, Autozone does not reset any check engine light. All employees are vehemently told NOT to do so.

Third, to the OP you arent covered under any scam laws unless you can prove the car was tampered with. You purchased the car as is with no warranty. If the dealer wants a repeat customer you might go back and see if they will work with you on it. but its a long shot.
 
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A lot of misinformation in this thread...

First, reset the code and see if it comes back. if it does, then you have some trouble shooting to do.

If the code comes back, I would start at the spark plugs and coils. make sure the plugs look clean (ie no black build up, not oily, and correctly gapped) plugs tell you alot about the health of your engine.
If everything checks out there, check fuel pressure.
Then check for exhaust leaks.

The car is in the range for a catalytic converter replacement but that doesnt mean you should just jump right to it if your car has another issue.

Second, Autozone does not reset any check engine light. All employees are vehemently told NOT to do so.

Third, to the OP you arent covered under any scam laws unless you can prove the car was tampered with. You purchased the car as is with no warranty. If the dealer wants a repeat customer you might go back and see if they will work with you on it. but its a long shot.
Will do after class today. And let you know what I find. In regards to the attachment I posted, could that be the culprit? Is it worth a shot looking into?
 
Second, Autozone does not reset any check engine light. All employees are vehemently told NOT to do so.
Maybe where you live they don't but I called a local one and they said "yes, we will reset the CEL for you."

In regards to the attachment I posted, could that be the culprit? Is it worth a shot looking into?
That TSB is from 2003 about a year after the cars were released. It looks to be an ECM/PCM software problem. It's possible that could be the problem, but I think it was aimed at "new" cars that needed the ECM/PCM updated.
 
Discussion starter · #12 ·
Good to know. Thanks for the info. Will attempt to manually reset CEL today and see if that brings any good news. If not will follow up on here and start with the steps you provided earlier. Thanks again.
 
Good to know. Thanks for the info. Will attempt to manually reset CEL today and see if that brings any good news. If not will follow up on here and start with the steps you provided earlier. Thanks again.
I haven't really helped much. AT93 gave more info than I did. :thmsup:
 
Will do after class today. And let you know what I find. In regards to the attachment I posted, could that be the culprit? Is it worth a shot looking into?
Definitely worth a look, dealer should do it for free. its just a software download off a scan tool. Its a long shot that it hasnt been done, if you arent the original owner.
 
Maybe where you live they don't but I called a local one and they said "yes, we will reset the CEL for you."
It has to do with emission testing. It doesnt mean that it doesnt happen under the table but it is a company policy not to reset it. I have worked in AZ and I have seen "tips" after "reading" CELs.
 
We don't have emmision testing here so that's probably why they're "allowed" to do it.
ahhh how nice it would be to live in a red state...
 
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