At nearly 38k miles, my '23 Accord Hybrid Touring tires (Michelin Primacy MXM4) are down to about 6/32" tread depth. I am getting increasingly uncomfortable driving with them. The only characteristic I like is that they are longer lasting and deliver good to great fuel economy (as EPA rated) on this hybrid.
My gripes with the OEM MXM4s:
1) Wet traction has never been good, but now that they are half way worn down, it is even worse and leaving me feeling uncomfortable on very wet roads.
2) Comfort and noise levels, also never a strong suit, have naturally also deteriorated with age and wearing down. The large rims plus low profile tires generate a harsher ride than I was expecting in a "family" type sedan which most of the time I drive conservatively (to take advantage of the hybrid fuel economy).
3) I'm not impressed with dry handling or traction either. Given that I drive most of the time to get the best fuel economy possible on each tankful (except long highway trips when my high speeds take a toll on fuel economy), it is rare that I push these GTAS tires close to their limits.
My Accord does has not seen any snow (yet), but it can be subjected to colder temps (40 F, sometimes lower) in western New York during the tail ends of the mid May to around Oct 30 time spent in WNY. The rest of the year (Oct 30-mid May), the Accord spends its time in subtropical south Florida (where the dry season runs from about mid Nov to May 1). Even in the dry season there is rain, sometimes quite heavy rain with lots of ponding of water on roadways.
Most of the miles I accrue are on highways and country roads, many coarse/rough surfaced, some smoother, some boringly straight but enough are windy, curvy and hilly. I drive it back and forth between SoFL and WNY twice each year (one time in each direction). In FL, the roads are generally much less pitted than up north, but there are still bumps and noisy surfaces to deal with there.
If I haven't made you doze off already, I know a touring all-season (but not all-weather) tire is what I am looking for, one with low rolling resistance (LRR) so that I can try to minimize the hit to my usually excellent fuel economy. I'd like a comfortable and confident tire in a variety of driving conditions--a compromise which leads to not excelling in any specific criteria but doing well enough in all criteria so as to be appropriate for a touring/grand touring tire.
After scouring TireRack, Consumer Reports (CR) and other online sources, I've identified the following tires for further consideration:
Continental TrueContact 54 (LRR promoted)
Kumho Majesty 9 Solus TA91 EV (LRR promoted)
Michelin Primacy Tour A/S (LRR promoted)
General Altimax RT45 (not LRR promoted)
Note that according to CR's lab testing, they scored the non-LRR General Altimax RT45 as 4 out of 5 for LRR, the same rating score as the LRR Conti TrueContact 54s and the LRR Michelin Primacy Tour A/S tires. It seems that marketing for LRR isn't a guarantee of anything, although maybe those tires would have been worse off for fuel economy/LRR without the eco focus. The Kumho tires were not tested by CR, and are EV tuned which may not be desirable for an HEV with less torque.
Do any of you have experience with any of these tires on your 19" wheels and on a hybrid? I'd welcome your thoughts. For those who have replaced the OEMs with different tires (touring or grand touring category tires, please), what has been your experience? Have you noticed more than a 5% decrease in fuel economy due to your replacement tire choice? Does the (improved) comfort and/or handling make a big difference? How have your new tires fared in wear/longevity? I don't usually pay much attention to reports on tires driven for less than 20k miles, and anything under 10k miles is still new in my opinion. But I'd welcome your impressions of your tires, even under 20k miles driven.
A more expensive option would be to buy new 17" alloy aftermarket wheels and 225/50-17 tires. Has anyone done this on their Accord Hybrid Touring? Or are there any Hybrid EX-L owners (which come standard with 17" wheels--steel or alloy?) who have driven their Accords with both 17" alloys and 19" wheels? Is there a noted increase in ride comfort and/or your fuel economy with the smaller and lighter 17s? Is there a noted decrease in handling with the 17s?
Thanks for reading my long post. I hope you will provide some relevant personal tire experiences. Beyond the tires, I have grown to appreciate my Accord Hybrid Touring, despite Honda's refusal to put in front passenger seating which is height adjustable (a big gripe), not putting enough cushioning in the front seat cushions, the disappearance of a Sirius XM app supported by Honda and Android Auto on the 2023, and the lack of a spare tire option (which would decrease fuel economy) that will fit in the wheel well, according to my parts department.
My gripes with the OEM MXM4s:
1) Wet traction has never been good, but now that they are half way worn down, it is even worse and leaving me feeling uncomfortable on very wet roads.
2) Comfort and noise levels, also never a strong suit, have naturally also deteriorated with age and wearing down. The large rims plus low profile tires generate a harsher ride than I was expecting in a "family" type sedan which most of the time I drive conservatively (to take advantage of the hybrid fuel economy).
3) I'm not impressed with dry handling or traction either. Given that I drive most of the time to get the best fuel economy possible on each tankful (except long highway trips when my high speeds take a toll on fuel economy), it is rare that I push these GTAS tires close to their limits.
My Accord does has not seen any snow (yet), but it can be subjected to colder temps (40 F, sometimes lower) in western New York during the tail ends of the mid May to around Oct 30 time spent in WNY. The rest of the year (Oct 30-mid May), the Accord spends its time in subtropical south Florida (where the dry season runs from about mid Nov to May 1). Even in the dry season there is rain, sometimes quite heavy rain with lots of ponding of water on roadways.
Most of the miles I accrue are on highways and country roads, many coarse/rough surfaced, some smoother, some boringly straight but enough are windy, curvy and hilly. I drive it back and forth between SoFL and WNY twice each year (one time in each direction). In FL, the roads are generally much less pitted than up north, but there are still bumps and noisy surfaces to deal with there.
If I haven't made you doze off already, I know a touring all-season (but not all-weather) tire is what I am looking for, one with low rolling resistance (LRR) so that I can try to minimize the hit to my usually excellent fuel economy. I'd like a comfortable and confident tire in a variety of driving conditions--a compromise which leads to not excelling in any specific criteria but doing well enough in all criteria so as to be appropriate for a touring/grand touring tire.
After scouring TireRack, Consumer Reports (CR) and other online sources, I've identified the following tires for further consideration:
Continental TrueContact 54 (LRR promoted)
Kumho Majesty 9 Solus TA91 EV (LRR promoted)
Michelin Primacy Tour A/S (LRR promoted)
General Altimax RT45 (not LRR promoted)
Note that according to CR's lab testing, they scored the non-LRR General Altimax RT45 as 4 out of 5 for LRR, the same rating score as the LRR Conti TrueContact 54s and the LRR Michelin Primacy Tour A/S tires. It seems that marketing for LRR isn't a guarantee of anything, although maybe those tires would have been worse off for fuel economy/LRR without the eco focus. The Kumho tires were not tested by CR, and are EV tuned which may not be desirable for an HEV with less torque.
Do any of you have experience with any of these tires on your 19" wheels and on a hybrid? I'd welcome your thoughts. For those who have replaced the OEMs with different tires (touring or grand touring category tires, please), what has been your experience? Have you noticed more than a 5% decrease in fuel economy due to your replacement tire choice? Does the (improved) comfort and/or handling make a big difference? How have your new tires fared in wear/longevity? I don't usually pay much attention to reports on tires driven for less than 20k miles, and anything under 10k miles is still new in my opinion. But I'd welcome your impressions of your tires, even under 20k miles driven.
A more expensive option would be to buy new 17" alloy aftermarket wheels and 225/50-17 tires. Has anyone done this on their Accord Hybrid Touring? Or are there any Hybrid EX-L owners (which come standard with 17" wheels--steel or alloy?) who have driven their Accords with both 17" alloys and 19" wheels? Is there a noted increase in ride comfort and/or your fuel economy with the smaller and lighter 17s? Is there a noted decrease in handling with the 17s?
Thanks for reading my long post. I hope you will provide some relevant personal tire experiences. Beyond the tires, I have grown to appreciate my Accord Hybrid Touring, despite Honda's refusal to put in front passenger seating which is height adjustable (a big gripe), not putting enough cushioning in the front seat cushions, the disappearance of a Sirius XM app supported by Honda and Android Auto on the 2023, and the lack of a spare tire option (which would decrease fuel economy) that will fit in the wheel well, according to my parts department.