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Finally had a chance to do it! I had noted a whole list of things I wanted to check out, both driving and with the Display Audio system. I got through most of them...

Here are a few impressions:

- This car has excellent acceleration! I could really feel the turbo kick in. I could even accelerate from 70 to 80 MPH in 6th gear pretty quickly.
- Some people complained that their right leg or knee would hit against the center console. I'm 6'1" and did not have any problem with sitting comfortably.
- No more Lane Watch camera! I was somewhat disappointed about that. I don't use it a whole lot -- it's no substitute for looking over your shoulder, after all -- but I found it handy in traffic to keep an eye on my right side when I wanted to make a lane change, so I could see if there was an opening without constantly having to turn and look, or rely on my side mirror.
- The mirrors aren't quite rectangular, like they were on the older models. I kinda like having a larger mirror surface. But I can get used to the non-rectangular shape.
- The major Bluetooth issues I had with my 2016 (the ones that were so bad, I sold it and bought a 2014) have been resolved in the new Display Audio system.
- I played around a little with USB audio as well. In my 2014, pressing the track forward/back buttons move to the next and previous track, naturally; turning the knob in the middle would advance forward or backward one whole folder. In the 2018, the knob had the same effect as the buttons, which seemed kind of redundant. Maybe it's an option you can set; I didn't look.
- I was disappointed that the NFC Pairing option wasn't there. Apparently, it's only available on Touring models.
- While they brought physical buttons back to the Display Audio screen, I miss having physical buttons for the radio presets and for phone speed dials. It was pretty sweet to just be able to hit "Phone, 1" to dial home. But there are "Favorites" in this one, so it shouldn't be difficult. And, of course, there's always voice command!
- Like others have said, I was a bit surprised by the rather high clutch engagement point. It's a lot lower on the 9th gen. It took some getting used to, and I kept engaging jerkily into 2nd gear because I was used to letting off the pedal faster as it went higher. I had to remember to let it off more slowly.

I definitely want one of these now! :)
 
How is the acceleration, smoothness-wise? My 9th gen, as I've posted before, has the most stutter-ish non-linear climb through the RPM range. If some 2.0 6MT owners could chime in regarding this I'd appreciate it.
 
Test drive the 10 Speed auto.

You might be surprised, but even if you are not, at least you will see what the state of the art is now.
 
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I really wanted to love the 6MT but I just didn't. That high clutch engagement killed it for me. It made it feel like work. My previous MT car was a 2008 Civic Si and the clutch was fully engaged by about half travel, so that's my frame of reference.

Ordered 10AT. Practical choice for me, anyway, since my wife can't drive stick, and it's occasionally convenient to trade cars for the day.

Also, I HATED the lane watch camera! In Canada, the LaneWatch camera is still there on all except the Touring - and that was one of the things that pushed me up to the Touring.
 
Great review and comments. This is what makes DA!
 
I really wanted to love the 6MT but I just didn't. That high clutch engagement killed it for me. It made it feel like work. My previous MT car was a 2008 Civic Si and the clutch was fully engaged by about half travel, so that's my frame of reference.

Ordered 10AT. Practical choice for me, anyway, since my wife can't drive stick, and it's occasionally convenient to trade cars for the day.
I guess I'm having a hard time understanding why people are complaining about the high engagement. You just adjust your frame of reference over a few weeks and then it's the new normal. Yes, it feels different at first.

I'm coming from an S2000 and I feel just as comfortable driving the Accord now. In fact, it's even easier to drive because of all the usable low end torque.
 
People are so dramatic about clutch engagement points! I agree it's a little bit high, but it takes about 5 minutes to adapt to it. I'd rather have it too high than too low.

Definitely the rev-hang is the more difficult thing to adapt to.
 
How is the acceleration, smoothness-wise? My 9th gen, as I've posted before, has the most stutter-ish non-linear climb through the RPM range. If some 2.0 6MT owners could chime in regarding this I'd appreciate it.
I didn't have too much of an opportunity to test, but it seemed pretty smooth to me. Although, my 2014 6MT doesn't feel stuttery to me; or maybe I just don't know what you mean. :)

I really wanted to love the 6MT but I just didn't. That high clutch engagement killed it for me. It made it feel like work. My previous MT car was a 2008 Civic Si and the clutch was fully engaged by about half travel, so that's my frame of reference.
I'm used to the lower engagement point on my 2014 EX as well. I imagine it's just a matter of getting used to something else. I'd probably have trouble going back into my wife's Fit, though, since the engagement point in that car is lower.

Also, I HATED the lane watch camera! In Canada, the LaneWatch camera is still there on all except the Touring - and that was one of the things that pushed me up to the Touring.
I don't know about Canadian models, but in the US, you can easily turn off the Lanewatch camera if you don't want it. You just have to go into the settings and find the camera setup, and tell Lanewatch not to turn on with the signals. (You can still turn it on with the button.)

I guess I'm having a hard time understanding why people are complaining about the high engagement. You just adjust your frame of reference over a few weeks and then it's the new normal. Yes, it feels different at first.
I agree, I think it's just a matter of getting used to it.

Ugg, if we don't buy em, they won't make em.
Exactly! That's why they're so hard to find...

Rev hang between 1-2 is bad when shifting at 2.5-3k rpm. I find myself having to shift much slower than I'm used to if I want it perfectly smooth. 2-3 and up is fine.
Maybe that's why I was jerking the car a lot when I first started out. I thought it was because I was hitting the engagement point and then releasing the clutch too fast, but maybe it was the rev hang. I'm not sure, though.
 
When downshifting and rev-matching, how responsive is the throttle? Does it "blip" quickly or does turbo lag make rev matching soggy? Also, in normal driving how is power delivery? As boost rebuilds after each shift, is it noticeable?
 
I really wanted to love the 6MT but I just didn't. That high clutch engagement killed it for me. It made it feel like work. My previous MT car was a 2008 Civic Si and the clutch was fully engaged by about half travel, so that's my frame of reference.
the clutch engagement is way too high, that's a fact

Maybe that's why I was jerking the car a lot when I first started out. I thought it was because I was hitting the engagement point and then releasing the clutch too fast, but maybe it was the rev hang. I'm not sure, though.
Yes, if you watch the tach during the 1-2 upshift, you can see it...rpm falls slowly, then as the clutch engages the revs will drop drastically giving you the buck...almost like if you dumped the clutch from an relatively low rpm


When downshifting and rev-matching, how responsive is the throttle? Does it "blip" quickly or does turbo lag make rev matching soggy? Also, in normal driving how is power delivery? As boost rebuilds after each shift, is it noticeable?
For the record, turbo lag isn't going to have an effect here...but the throttle response setting in the ECU will

I can speak from a somewhat interesting comparison...the vast majority of my time driving a manual car is the 16 years I've owned my Mustang, I don't feel the Accord has a "soggy" blip but I do feel I have to depress the gas pedal a little further to get the same AMOUNT of "blip" as on my Mustang...the magazine testers of the new Accord have praised the downshifting of the transmission in reviews

However, you have to remember my Mustang was made in 1994 so it's an completely mechanical system. Basically its...pedal-cable-throttle body...

I doubt that really answers your question, but it's my experience
 
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