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aiite i want to ask everybody how hard is it to replace your timing belt. i got a 94 honda accord ex. i believe my timing is off and also getting to the point where i put enough miles on the car to replace it. i kinda wanna do the job myself but i need some instruction how to do it and wut kind of tools i need.

The reason why i want to do the work myself is so that i could learn how things work and so that if anything else happen i could figure it out without going the pay to get it check. second thing is so that i could save a lot of $$$$$ lol

i'm not a complete noob i've done some work in my car like replacing the axles, clutch cylinder etc. but nothing around the timing belt.

thanks for the time
 
First. PLEASE do a search next time! There are at least 8-10 threads with pages of information of the Timing belt replacment.

Seccond, if you've never done one before. Don't try it on the Accord, which uses an interference engine. If that belt breaks, isn't on right, or the timing is really, really off, you can bend the valves in the engine and cause thousands of dollors worth of internal damage. It just isn't worth it.

If you take it to a shop, the avg. replacement for just a belt is $400-$450. Most being labor. I'm willing to bet your car needs quite a bit of maitennace, and I suggest you look into having the full 90k mile service done. It includes the timing belt.

Here: http://www.driveaccord.net/forums/showpost.php?p=132361&postcount=2

Also, a search of 'timing belt' will yield a TON of results. All very informative.

Good luck.
 
You can download a pdf of your shop manual from:

http://www.hondahookup.com/manuals/

I did my own timing belt and its time consuming. You have to take a lot of stuff off the driver's side of the engine. Plan on that job to take you a whole day if you have the proper tools.

You have to be certain that your timing marks are dead on when you put on the new belt, because that can cause engine damage.

Search for the crankshaft pulley bolt, because you have to use a lot of force to get that to come off. You will also have to buy a crankshaft retaining tool.
 
The timing belt is easy to do IF you've done it or have seen it done. I saw a video for sale on ebay that showed how to do a 6 cyl. I don't know if they make them for 4 cyls. There are things that can go wrong. I've done t-belts on subaru's but honda's are different. I was in the process of looking for a shop to do mine with the hopes that I can get involved in the process so that I know how to do it myself the next time. Good luck and let us know which way you go and how it turns out.
 
Discussion starter · #6 ·
aiite ya'll sorry if i didn't search around first it's my first time here. but that 105k service sounds like what i need. but sounds a lot right now, even though it's pretty cheap compare to when something breaks like the belt. hmmmmm, well thanks again for the reply and i will do search next time.
 
Accordlover said:
First. PLEASE do a search next time!
Please don't tell our new members to do a search when they post a question. A simple reply with the link is all that is necessary. If you don't want to help them....just hit the back button.

We do not want to turn into another "forum" that is impersonal and rude. We are here to help as you did, just help...don't include the comment.

Thanks
 
The timing belt is easy to do IF you've done it or have seen it done. I saw a video for sale on ebay that showed how to do a 6 cyl. I don't know if they make them for 4 cyls. There are things that can go wrong. I've done t-belts on subaru's but honda's are different. I was in the process of looking for a shop to do mine with the hopes that I can get involved in the process so that I know how to do it myself the next time. Good luck and let us know which way you go and how it turns out.
Do you have a link to this video?
 
it is not easy, first timing belt/water pump i did was on a vw jetta 1999.5
and it cost me $500 for the kit, and took me just under 5 hours, with cleaning up. you could get your accord's belt changed for around $650
trust me and just pay someone to do it. you could mess the hole engine up if every thing is not perfect.
it was pretty nerve wracking right when i turned the key on mine,:paranoid: but it was such a relief when it started and ran fine.:yes:
 
If you decide to do it, leave the plugs out so that you can turn the engine by hand afterwards to check no valves come into contact with any pistons before trying to start the engine!!

Basically you need to lock up three items.. The crankshaft, the camshaft, and the injection pump, so that none of them can move independant of the others during belt removal and replacement.. :yes:

Most engines have holes that you line up, and slide a pin into, to prevent movement of the parts involved. But I don't know exactly how the Accord engine lock-ups work. :dunno:

If the engine has a timing belt tensioner, it's a good idea to replace that, and it's fairly normal to replace the water pump when changing the belt for the second time while you have access to it. :)

You should find full detailed instructions on timing belt replacement in the cars workshop manual.. :)
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Discussion starter · #11 ·
it's gonna cost me 750 for the belt and water pump, but i decided to do it myself since the most important thing is that to mark all three pulley and just incase they move i can always put it where the mark is.

the questions is, wut tools do i need to get the job done? and also about the manual start up exactly how do u do that?
 
If you need that information, you probably shouldn't do this at all
 
i honestly agree with the others on here....

if you want to be cheap with fixing everything else on your car, that's fine.

DON'T BE CHEAP ABOUT DOING THIS MAINTENANCE WHATSOEVER....

you'll be sorry if something goes wrong, and you get bent valves / other damage.
 
Discussion starter · #14 ·
aiite yall i finally got a solution, i found a local mechanic whose gonna do it for me for 250 and he's gonna come with me to buy the parts to save me money, he is also gonna show me how its done. whewww. yea i did wanna be cheap cause there's still other parts needed to be taken care of, i guess u guys are right this is to serious to just try fixing without experience. thanks for all ur time, i appreciate all the advice. i'll let you know wut the outcome will be:lmao:
 
the only reason i did my vw was because i knew exactly what to do by watching my bro's TDI's timing belt being replaced a few months earlier.
not the same engine, but close enough, still a simi-tough job with having to lean over allot, it would half helped to be shorter:D, my back was killing me the next day.:thumbsdow
and the cost to have it replaced was well over $1000 at the vw stealership, parts alone were not cheap.
 
>>>and also about the manual start up exactly how do u do that?<<<

Sorry, I don't understand the question? can you be more explicit please. :dunno:

Changing a cam belt is not exactly rocket science, once you get the crank shaft pin located then the rest should automaticaly be in the right place and ready to recieve their pins, if they were not the engine would not have run! It is also a good idea to take photos as you go, so that if you forget how-where something was fitted, you can look at your pictures. :) You deff want to take some of the belt before you take it off. :yes:

Like most jobs on cars, it takes patience, and a methodical approach. You will bang your knuckles a bit, lose some skin, struggle to undo things that are very awkward to get at, drop things into spaces that takes ages to get them back out of.. etc etc.. :) If you get tired or impatient, take a coffee break, things will be easier after a rest-break.. :)

But if you have the time and patience, it is better to do things yourself, not only to save money, but to ensure that the jobs are done properly.. :)

One more thing, allow yourself plenty of time, NEVER rush any work you do on your car.. :paranoid:
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Discussion starter · #17 ·
lol:lmao: i'm about to get mine done right now saved me about 250 on labor and 80 or parts:thmsup: plus this guy is gonna show how it's done. i guess i was trying to save some dough. but i guess i can't do it with this type of part. lol i'll come back at you when i'm done.
 
Discussion starter · #18 ·
aiite i got it done finally, when i was driving up to 50mph seems different for some reason, i get this weird noise and the i decelerate seems like the car is choking a lil. the car sounds different. is that normal at first? theres also some minor shaking in the engine.

i'm going to get the timing fix monday, if you guys have any suggestions please let me know, thanks in advace
 
You're diriving the engine with the timing off?!

Stop driving it if that's what you mean, you're ruining your engine! Not good. :(

Did the person who did it for you know how to work on Hondas?
 
umm, my engine's timing has been slighly retarded for a couple years..... it runs fine.... :wave:
 
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