[04blkpearlcoupe]

Hi guys. I waxed my car only a couple weeks ago with a very old bottle of meguiar's NXT and after washing my car yesterday I noticed that all of the wax is GONE. The surface isn't even slippery. So, I need some new wax and I am on a very limited budget since I am currently looking for a job. I wouldn't even care if my car wasn't developing clearcoat failure. So, anyone have any experience with a good looking wax that will last? I have a black car so it needs to look good as well as last. Thanks.

NOTE: I did use the search feature before I posted this and it came up with 0 results.

 

[RTexasF]

Collinite Insulator Wax #845

Collinite #476S Super Double Coat

Both are legendary in durability and looks.

 

[G Stone]

I have experience with clearcoat failure...it is a nasty thing :bawling:

 

[namegoeshere]

If you're trying to stop the clearcoat from failing, it's too late. If it's begun, it cannot be stopped.

 

[SSMV6]

Zymol. It's cheap (~$12-15/bottle)and it's readily available and it last for months.

 

[04blkpearlcoupe]

If you're trying to stop the clearcoat from failing, it's too late. If it's begun, it cannot be stopped.

I don't believe that because it started when I didn't wax my car for a year due to a family crisis and once I started waxing it again it stopped spreading.

 

[04blkpearlcoupe]

I have experience with clearcoat failure...it is a nasty thing :bawling:

I found a way of minimizing it so its not real visible. I used turtle wax rubbing compound with a wet cloth to remove almost all of the white hazy stuff and then hit the area with Mother's scratch remover, which is really a good polishing product and that took care of the hazy white edges so what was left is a faint ring around where the damage used to be. Then I go over it with wax for protection. It looks 100x's better, but its not totally invisible.

 

[04blkpearlcoupe]

Thanks for the suggestions RTexasF and SSMV6. I think I will buy the Zymol for now and order the Collinite wax later since I need something I can use today. That Collinite wax looks like a great find! Thanks.

 

[namegoeshere]

I don't believe that because it started when I didn't wax my car for a year due to a family crisis and once I started waxing it again it stopped spreading.

More likely is you slowed it down. If yours wasn't too severe, then by waxing and washing your car more frequently you were able to significantly slow the process.

But...

As for the clear coat failure in general, the main reason you can't stop it once it starts is because the failure actually happens where the clear and color coats bond. Or, in the case of clear coat failure, where they fail to bond! That means the problem starts at the bottom of the clear coat, not on the surface. You have no way of reaching down to the bottom of the clear coat to affect any sort of change, so it spreads uncontrollably. It can be brought on by UV damage, but there are other reasons for it as well.

 

[04blkpearlcoupe]

More likely is you slowed it down. If yours wasn't too severe, then by waxing and washing your car more frequently you were able to significantly slow the process.

But...

In one year my paint went from having zero clearcoat failure to having it in 5 spots, each one between 4 to 6 inches in diameter. I've been waxing now for about 6 months and no new spots have emerged and the spots that are there have not grown, so if I did just slow it down, then the progress must be so slow that it can't even be seen.

I know that clearcoat failure = delaminating. What the wax does is protect the clearcoat from the UV rays of the sun so it doesn't continue to delaminate.

 

[ypsibird]

Thanks for the suggestions RTexasF and SSMV6. I think I will buy the Zymol for now and order the Collinite wax later since I need something I can use today. That Collinite wax looks like a great find! Thanks.

If you don't mind, give us your impression after you've used both waxes. I kind of disagree with SSMV6 about Zymol. I used it for 3 - 4 years on my cars and was very happy with the great shine it gave. Especially if you mist it in with water like the instructions suggest. However, I wasn't happy with it's durability. After about reading about Collinite here (thanks) I switched and would never go back. Collinite is way more durable and has at least a comparable shine. I'm sure I have a 1/2 bottle of Zymol in my basement that I should just throw out since I'll never use it again.

 

[SatinSilver]

The cheap Zymol wax is apparently made by Turtle Wax:

http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1571424

http://www.northamericanmotoring.com/forums/detailing-101/18445-zymol-cleaner-wax-trouble.html

 

[RTexasF]

There are those that like it but in my opinion Zymol is overpriced. If you can find it at Big Lots dirt cheap then it might be a good buy. When I tried it durability was like any other low dollar over the counter wax......2-4 weeks.

You ask what is the best in your title yet you are willing to settle on a substandard product........what's up with that? Just go buy any crap off the shelf, it would be better than nothing. With a failing clear coat Nu-Finish would be the smartest purchase you could make. No, I'm not kidding. For $6.00 it is an outstanding product and should not be overlooked for what it does.

 

[04blkpearlcoupe]

There are those that like it but in my opinion Zymol is overpriced. If you can find it at Big Lots dirt cheap then it might be a good buy. When I tried it durability was like any other low dollar over the counter wax......2-4 weeks.

You ask what is the best in your title yet you are willing to settle on a substandard product........what's up with that? Just go buy any crap off the shelf, it would be better than nothing. With a failing clear coat Nu-Finish would be the smartest purchase you could make. No, I'm not kidding. For $6.00 it is an outstanding product and should not be overlooked for what it does.

Well, like I said, I'm unemployed and pretty desperate for work so my budget is very limited. I would hold off buying new wax if I didn't need to stop the CC failure. I just want the absolute best wax that I can afford at the moment. I take my car's finish very seriously and have been waxing it about once a month since I neglected it for a year due to a family crisis. I've been using the same big bottle of NXT that I've had for years. Its not even NXT 2.0, its the older version. I think it is probably past its expiration date.

The other thing is that I have a black car so I want something that will give it a deep color. I am definitely not some guy who will be happy with any old wax. I have even used polishing compound and a dual action buffer on occasion to remove swirls and get a professional looking finish. I've spent hours at a time washing, polishing and waxing by hand too because I care so much about my car's appearance.

 

[RTexasF]

Then just continue to use the NXT that you have on hand.....no money spent. When you run out get some Nu-Finish for cheap.

 

[04blkpearlcoupe]

Then just continue to use the NXT that you have on hand.....no money spent. When you run out get some Nu-Finish for cheap.

I'm going to get the Collinite wax as soon as I convince myself to spend the money. I'm actually waxing after every wash with the NXT. Thankfully it comes off real easy. I'm also going to see if I can find it locally because I don't want to pay shipping and wait 2 weeks for it.

 

[gen_unknown_7.5]

I'm actually looking to the purchase the NXT 2.0 tech wax. I've heard that layering multiple layers of thin wax is the best way to achieve result.

 

[jdmorg]

Collinite Insulator Wax #845

Collinite #476S Super Double Coat

Both are legendary in durability and looks.

+1

...and you can top it with carnuba if you want.

 

[thedetailguyz]

it's not always the wax but the prep work. You can have $1,000 pot of swissvax wax but if you didn't prep the paint properly the wax is near worthless.

Collinite 845 is rather inexpensive and extremely durable.

 

[G Stone]

My advise would be to wash, clay, polish, wax or sealant. I am trying to use up all of my Meguiars over the counter products so I can invest in some Meguiars 105 & 205 polish.