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My 2025 Honda Accord Touring Hybrid came with "Google Built In". This means that Android Auto, Google Assistant, Google Maps and the Google Play Store are integrated into the vehicle's infotainment system.

After experimenting with "Google Built In", I ended up disabling it entirely. Here's why I did that, and why you may want to do that as well.

If you have an iPhone, then you have no need for GBI because you are in the Apple ecosystem. Your new Honda vehicle comes with Apple's Car Play, which includes Siri along with Apple Maps and the Apple App Store. You may not need to disable GBI, unless you find that it interferes with your use of CarPlay.

If you have an Android phone, then you already have Google Assistant, Google Maps and the Google Play Store ... on your phone. Android Auto only adds the ability to duplicate these three apps on your car's infotainment system.

What I asked myself was "why duplicate in my vehicle what I already have on my phone?" The only advantage I could find was that Android Auto makes it possible to see Google Maps on the screen of your vehicle's infotainment system. While it's nice to see a bigger view of Google Maps, and to have directions appear on your vehicle's Head Up Display, that doesn't really help you to navigate any easier than using Google Maps on your Android phone, since I suspect that most of us rely on Google Maps' spoken turn-by-turn directions, which also eliminates the need to look at your vehicle's infotainment screen.

There is also a downside to integrating Android Auto in your vehicle, actually two downsides, and here I am not referring to all the data you have to share with Google. (You're already sharing that data from your phone.)

The first downside is that Android Auto is an all-or-nothing decision. If you are using Android Auto and you want to listen to AM or FM stations - which are not part of Android Auto - you will be disconnected from Android Auto, and will need to re-connect later. (This was also true in earlier years' implementations of Android Auto.)

The second downside is that with GBI, Android Auto is no longer a choice. You can no longer decide if you want to use it. If your Android Phone has Bluetooth turned on, Android Auto will start automatically when you get into your vehicle. You cannot prevent this, and it's no longer possible (as it was in earlier years) to use Android Auto with a USB cable in order to control it.

That's not all: Once inside your vehicle, if you turn Bluetooth off in your phone, GBI will turn it on again! And if you disconnect your phone from Bluetooth, GBI will re-connect it! Your ability to choose has been taken away from you. This also means that you cannot use Bluetooth only for audio, i.e., to stream music or a podcast from your phone to your vehicle's speakers via Bluetooth, because enabling Bluetooth automatically starts Android Auto. [See my correction for this in a later reply.]

In fact, if you use GBI as Google hopes you will, you will enter the password for your Google Account to your vehicle's infotainment system, and then you can use the apps even if you forget your phone at home. Thus, what Google really wants is to replace your vehicle's infotainment system with Google's own apps.

For all these reasons, in my 2025 Honda Accord I have completely disabled "Google Built In" - which was not at all easy - and rely instead on my Android phone, as I have done in the past.
 
Your tenth and second to last paragraph alone is important. I would not (prefer to) enter my Google password into my Honda - I am surprised not to see concern over this security risk expressed more often. I have a 2024 Accord EX, so I have never had the chance to find this out. However, I strongly disagree with this crucial sentence in your fifth paragraph, "While it's nice to see a bigger view of Google Maps, and to have directions appear on your vehicle's Head Up Display, that doesn't really help you to navigate any easier than using Google Maps on your Android phone, since I suspect that most of us rely on Google Maps' spoken turn-by-turn directions, which also eliminates the need to look at your vehicle's infotainment screen". There are many reasons why looking at Google Maps on your infotainment screen immensely helps to navigate, especially more so than relying on the spoken turn by turn directions. The screen allows you to see changes in the road such as curves in particular directions. The spoken directions often delay telling you what lane you should be in for an upcoming turn. The spoken directions do not tell you if an intersection with a red light, or a stop sign, is upcoming. The spoken directions do not indicate where you are on a map, in relation to nearby roads and other geography. And more.
 
Using the GBI or Android Auto / Carplay certainly has some differences, but I haven't found that one is universally better for our own use cases than the other. For much of its usage, I prefer using Android Auto while underway. But GBI is the only way to get video streaming on the interface, as it's made quite hard to do via Android Auto / Carplay without any additional hardware. Seeing how Android Auto/Carplay have been under development for many years now, and Google Auto is by contrast very early in its development cycle, it remains to be seen where things will be 6 months from now or 3 years from now.
 
The first downside is that Android Auto is an all-or-nothing decision. If you are using Android Auto and you want to listen to AM or FM stations - which are not part of Android Auto - you will be disconnected from Android Auto, and will need to re-connect later. (This was also true in earlier years' implementations of Android Auto.)

The second downside is that with GBI, Android Auto is no longer a choice. You can no longer decide if you want to use it. If your Android Phone has Bluetooth turned on, Android Auto will start automatically when you get into your vehicle. You cannot prevent this, and it's no longer possible (as it was in earlier years) to use Android Auto with a USB cable in order to control it.
If you switch to AM/FM or other option, AA is not disconnected. It's still connected, and you only have to touch the AA symbol bottom left of infotainment to switch back to it (like changing channels).

AA is most definitely a choice. You need to establish correct AA setting:
START ANDROID AUTO AUTOMATICALLY
ALWAYS
IF USED ON THE LAST DRIVE
DEFAULT (SET BY THE CAR)
 
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I discovered, albeit by accident, that you can, in fact, stream music and podcasts from your phone to your vehicle's speakers via Bluetooth without starting Android Auto.

To do that, pair your phone to your vehicle as you normally would. You'll see this message on your infotainment screen:

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That's a trick, courtesy of Google. Tap on Cancel and start streaming. However, you can only control the playback from your phone.
 
My 2025 Honda Accord Touring Hybrid came with "Google Built In". This means that Android Auto, Google Assistant, Google Maps and the Google Play Store are integrated into the vehicle's infotainment system.

After experimenting with "Google Built In", I ended up disabling it entirely. Here's why I did that, and why you may want to do that as well.

If you have an iPhone, then you have no need for GBI because you are in the Apple ecosystem. Your new Honda vehicle comes with Apple's Car Play, which includes Siri along with Apple Maps and the Apple App Store. You may not need to disable GBI, unless you find that it interferes with your use of CarPlay.

If you have an Android phone, then you already have Google Assistant, Google Maps and the Google Play Store ... on your phone. Android Auto only adds the ability to duplicate these three apps on your car's infotainment system.

What I asked myself was "why duplicate in my vehicle what I already have on my phone?" The only advantage I could find was that Android Auto makes it possible to see Google Maps on the screen of your vehicle's infotainment system. While it's nice to see a bigger view of Google Maps, and to have directions appear on your vehicle's Head Up Display, that doesn't really help you to navigate any easier than using Google Maps on your Android phone, since I suspect that most of us rely on Google Maps' spoken turn-by-turn directions, which also eliminates the need to look at your vehicle's infotainment screen.

There is also a downside to integrating Android Auto in your vehicle, actually two downsides, and here I am not referring to all the data you have to share with Google. (You're already sharing that data from your phone.)

The first downside is that Android Auto is an all-or-nothing decision. If you are using Android Auto and you want to listen to AM or FM stations - which are not part of Android Auto - you will be disconnected from Android Auto, and will need to re-connect later. (This was also true in earlier years' implementations of Android Auto.)

The second downside is that with GBI, Android Auto is no longer a choice. You can no longer decide if you want to use it. If your Android Phone has Bluetooth turned on, Android Auto will start automatically when you get into your vehicle. You cannot prevent this, and it's no longer possible (as it was in earlier years) to use Android Auto with a USB cable in order to control it.

That's not all: Once inside your vehicle, if you turn Bluetooth off in your phone, GBI will turn it on again! And if you disconnect your phone from Bluetooth, GBI will re-connect it! Your ability to choose has been taken away from you. This also means that you cannot use Bluetooth only for audio, i.e., to stream music or a podcast from your phone to your vehicle's speakers via Bluetooth, because enabling Bluetooth automatically starts Android Auto. [See my correction for this in a later reply.]

In fact, if you use GBI as Google hopes you will, you will enter the password for your Google Account to your vehicle's infotainment system, and then you can use the apps even if you forget your phone at home. Thus, what Google really wants is to replace your vehicle's infotainment system with Google's own apps.

For all these reasons, in my 2025 Honda Accord I have completely disabled "Google Built In" - which was not at all easy - and rely instead on my Android phone, as I have done in the past.
Would provide instructions on how to disable GBI? I’d really appreciate it!
 
Slightly off-topic but I am in the market for a 2025 and I am anti-google. I would like to shut off all data transmission to google and to Honda (just on principle). I would then use car play with an iphone for navigation, streaming music, etc. Is my objective achievable or is it a pipe dream? Thanks.
 
I was able to disable DATA sharing easily in the first week of ownership. Every time I start the car, I get a screen confirming my choice. You can toggle it off and on from that screen. Does this completely shut it off? Not sure.



This is the screen I got before I shut off DATA sharing.
 
Thanks for that helpful information. To your point, I suppose it remains unclear whether that toggle shuts off all Honda, Honda Link, and Google data sharing. BTW, it is my understanding that even if you don't pay for a cellular data plan, the car maintains a cellular data connection in the background.
 
I do not like or want google. On my homemade computer I'm ridding it of anything google, but I have to admit Gmail is decent.
 
You can always use
Android Auto on the head unit. I prefer to use the Built in Google apps as I have unlimited data on that plan and my phone has a 15gb limit. (those maps are HUGE). But I sometime use Sirius/Xm from my phone (I have a lifetime subscription). Why anyone would want to block Google and not also Block Apple is strange, as all these platforms make money on data mining?
 
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