[jmmch65]

How good is the reliability of your 10th gen Accord 2.0T with 10 speed AT? What year is your car? How many miles do you have? Is it expensive to maintain? How good does it performs? Any regrets? Would you buy it again?

 

[jayhawk8282]

My 2018 touring 2.0 has been remarkable. Soon will be 5 years old/ 35000 miles on it. I've had no problems with it. Performance is great, especially in Sport mode. Only regret is road noise---I've added soundproofing to trunk lid, trunk, rear seat area, all 4 doors--not much improvement. Overall mix of city/hwy has averaged 27-28 mpg. Based on my experience I'd recommend this car without reservation.

 

[Honda2014]

I have had 5 different Accords, have driven a 4th Gen, 6th Gen, and 11th Gen (only test drive briefly), had a ‘18 Civic EX and 2013 TL for several years and have driven many other Hondas and Acuras (some extensively). While many other Honda’s/Acura’s drove well (some even handle or ride better), or had better or much better sound system, I can honestly say that overall, of all the ones I’ve driven, 10G 2.0T Touring is my favorite Honda (this includes the Acuras I’ve driven extensively) so far, when it comes to overall styling, performance, efficiency (mpg), value (features / price point), practicality, and reliability (so far). The only one I’m excluding from the list is the TLX tech I also test drove that arguably drove better (I didn’t quite experience it on my short, somewhat congested test drive) and had a MUCH better sound system, let alone looking gorgeous at the same time. It was a very temping choice as well. Too bad it also lost points to me in the backseat room, trunk storage, and had a MSRP of 44k at the time.

 

[Honda2014]

As far as reliability, I have almost 42k miles with zero major issue so far. The only somewhat significant issue was premature brake wear that had me replaced the brakes at 16k miles under warranty. Then again the rear pads during my last oil change at around 41k miles. No other issue at all. The car has been reliable so far.

 

[outersquare]

The 10AT seems to be pretty reliable. This Honda tech's YT channel said they just did their first 10AT replacement, being 5 years into this model's life this seems pretty good. It's really too bad Honda killed the good powertrain. Hyundai is redesigning the Sonata and even keeping the 2.5T N line for 2024 so no good excuses for Honda.

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[WiiMaster]

10AT must do a better job in the smaller vehicles. The 10 speed in the Odyssey has been a different story. It's not at the point of early 2000s Honda ATs, but there's definitely a lot of duds. I vividly remember one person who had a failure when their Odyssey had all of 300 miles on it, and several very early in the car's lifetime. And a survey on OdyClub shows that there have been far more 10 speed failures than failures with the ZF 9 speed.

 

[outersquare]

That may be, the Odyssey is over 1000 lbs more or 33% heavier relative to the accord. That doesn't even take into account that Accords are more likely to be lightly loaded commuter cars where as an Odyssey is going to be constantly carrying large families with their belongings.

 

[Honda2014]

As far as issues with 10ATs in the Odyssey, I don't doubt that could be happening to some owners. But how often is that? Do we have hard numbers (number of cases of transmission failures) / units sold, or is this simply an issue of the several affected (who actually had problems with their 10AT) Odyssey owners repeatedly complain about their stories of misfortune, while the vast majority of owners are fine? I mean, Honda has been ditching the 9AT in favor for the 10AT in several of their models. Off the top of my head, Odyssey, Pilot, MDX and now discontinued RLX all have gotten the update. The company is also using the 10AT in our 2.0t (many of them, anyways), TLX, RDX as well as the TLX Type S. While there have been certainly cases where I question Honda's decision making ability, but at the end of day, this is not a stupid company. Why would they ditch the more reliable (9AT) / aka better transmission in favor of one that has supposedly been proven to be overwhelmingly less reliable? That just doesn't make sense to me. There must be a reason why the 10ATs are replacing the previous 9ATs.

 

[WiiMaster]

The 9AT is sort of a weird animal. It doesn't typically fail, but owners of it tend to notice that the way it shifts is a bit odd. It also has this "learning behavior" that causes it to change its behavior depending on the habits of the drivers, which I suppose could make things weird for vehicles that commonly have multiple drivers.

Considering the 10AT is the first planetary gear AT from Honda it doesn't surprise me to see them having some growing pains. I'm curious to see what they come up with to succeed it. I would expect that to be better.

 

[Honda2014]

The 9AT is sort of a weird animal. It doesn't typically fail, but owners of it tend to notice that the way it shifts is a bit odd. It also has this "learning behavior" that causes it to change its behavior depending on the habits of the drivers, which I suppose could make things weird for vehicles that commonly have multiple drivers.

Considering the 10AT is the first planetary gear AT from Honda it doesn't surprise me to see them having some growing pains. I'm curious to see what they come up with to succeed it. I would expect that to be better.

Yeah, I did a bit of digging last night. The 9AT seemed to have issues at the beginning, but then the issues seemed to have gone away. Most of it seems to be complaints about the way it shifts. As far as 10AT, I’ve not really seen too much issue other than from Odyssey’s that you mentioned and from some owners of the 2018 Accord 2.0t that I assumed had more buggy transmissions because they came off the first production runs. I haven’t seen any issues with it on the 10G forums, at least in the recent year or two on newer 10G models. Mine has been fine as well, so honestly I’m not too worried about it.

 

[Samurai1225]

2020 EXL 2.0T
63,000 miles
rear brakes @ 62,500 miles
it has been dead nutz reliable. I have only had to do normal maintenance. The infotainment screen has never ever even glitched once.
There is one thing that is kind of irritating ... while in sport mode sometimes the 10 speed transmission hang up in a lower gear (elevated rpms) before shifting up .... Other than this generally very smooth shifts

 

[jmmch65]

It seems that the bast majority that participated in the survey are very satisfied with their 2.0T X gen Accord. I can't understand why Honda stopped manufacturing this great powertrain on the newer model Accord.

 

[Honda2014]

It seems that the bast majority that participated in the survey are very satisfied with their 2.0T X gen Accord. I can't understand why Honda stopped manufacturing this great powertrain on the newer model Accord.

It confused me initially as well, if not worse lol.

Seeing Honda’s recent push for EV and their current product lineups, I can see a few plausible theories:

1) They want to lead in establishing a “green” image with majority of its offering being hybrids… which paves the way for their future EV offerings

2) “CAFE” mpg requirement, although I don’t see this being an issue for a few other manufacturers.

3) To help the TLX/ RDX sales. This is based on the presumption that a loaded Accord with the “same” engine is going to take away sales from their premium offerings ie. Each 2.0t Accord could mean 1 less unit sold between the two.

4) Not stepping on the toes of the Civic Type Rs and Integra Type S, both of which are expected to be big sellers.

5) A combination of two or more of the above

6) Or something else

 

[ThrillHill]

It seems that the bast majority that participated in the survey are very satisfied with their 2.0T X gen Accord. I can't understand why Honda stopped manufacturing this great powertrain on the newer model Accord.

It doesn't seem to make sense, does it? Maybe the 2.0T models are "too" good and cannibalize Acura sales.

I'd be curious to see how much profit Acura makes compared to Honda-proper in the US. A completely decked out, Accord Type S would have to sell more that TLX models, no? I absolutely admit the TLX looks the part of the upscale sports sedan, but in base form...it barely performs like one. Presumably Honda knows what they're doing.

 

[RAD1HGCV2F9]

2020 EXL 2.0T
63,000 miles
rear brakes @ 62,500 miles
it has been dead nutz reliable. I have only had to do normal maintenance. The infotainment screen has never ever even glitched once.
There is one thing that is kind of irritating ... while in sport mode sometimes the 10 speed transmission hang up in a lower gear (elevated rpms) before shifting up .... Other than this generally very smooth shifts

2019 Touring 2.0T 87K here. No issues with the car other than my infotainment being glitchy from time to time but it is a good chance it is more of an android auto issue than an infotainment issue. In terms of the head unit it has only crashed once on me.

In terms of the drivetrain it has been reliable for 76k for the first owner and another 10k for me. Now it is tuned with about 100lb-ft of extra torque and no issues so far. Absolutely fantastic car and would buy another in a heartbeat.

 

[richdooz]

2019 Touring 2.0T 87K here. No issues with the car other than my infotainment being glitchy from time to time but it is a good chance it is more of an android auto issue than an infotainment issue. In terms of the head unit it has only crashed once on me.

In terms of the drivetrain it has been reliable for 76k for the first owner and another 10k for me. Now it is tuned with about 100lb-ft of extra torque and no issues so far. Absolutely fantastic car and would buy another in a heartbeat.

RAD1HGCV2F9,

Given your mileage... are you aware of the 10AT maintenance required at about 90k? I was talking to one of the service reps at the dealer about approx cost of services.. while he didn't give a comprehensive list he did mention the 10AT required a $500 service. He said it was expensive because it's a long process... something like:

• Drain fluid, fill with special 'flush'
• Drive car for certain number of miles or through some specific driving pattern... I guess to make sure the fluid circulates properly throughout
• Drain flush fluid
• Fill with new fluid (I don't recall if he said it was a special type or if it was standard)

Has anybody else heard that? I don't imagine too many 10G owners are at/near the 90k mark yet.

 

[LulzChicken]

RAD1HGCV2F9,

Given your mileage... are you aware of the 10AT maintenance required at about 90k? I was talking to one of the service reps at the dealer about approx cost of services.. while he didn't give a comprehensive list he did mention the 10AT required a $500 service. He said it was expensive because it's a long process... something like:

• Drain fluid, fill with special 'flush'
• Drive car for certain number of miles or through some specific driving pattern... I guess to make sure the fluid circulates properly throughout
• Drain flush fluid
• Fill with new fluid (I don't recall if he said it was a special type or if it was standard)

Has anybody else heard that? I don't imagine too many 10G owners are at/near the 90k mark yet.

A transmission fluid on the 10AT is about ~$150. I called for a quote before going to my dealer. It is not a complicated procedure. All that is required drain, fill, and shift the transmission through each gear in a proper order and you're done, no driving required. Don't let them fool you. Look up some YouTube videos of the process, easy to do especially for a dealer with a lift. The main thing you are paying for is the fluid, should be an hour or less of labor easily.

 

[Honda2014]

2019 Touring 2.0T 87K here. No issues with the car other than my infotainment being glitchy from time to time but it is a good chance it is more of an android auto issue than an infotainment issue. In terms of the head unit it has only crashed once on me.

I’ve had minor glitches with the infotainment when I’m using Apple CarPlay too. Not a major issue, just annoying when it happens.

RAD1HGCV2F9,

Given your mileage... are you aware of the 10AT maintenance required at about 90k? I was talking to one of the service reps at the dealer about approx cost of services.. while he didn't give a comprehensive list he did mention the 10AT required a $500 service. He said it was expensive because it's a long process... something like:

• Drain fluid, fill with special 'flush'
• Drive car for certain number of miles or through some specific driving pattern... I guess to make sure the fluid circulates properly throughout
• Drain flush fluid
• Fill with new fluid (I don't recall if he said it was a special type or if it was standard)

Has anybody else heard that? I don't imagine too many 10G owners are at/near the 90k mark yet.

$500 sounds like a lot for this job. My local dealer charges $330. Even that I think is pushing it. It should be a $200-250 job all in.

A transmission fluid on the 10AT is about ~$150. I called for a quote before going to my dealer. It is not a complicated procedure. All that is required drain, fill, and shift the transmission through each gear in a proper order and you're done, no driving required. Don't let them fool you. Look up some YouTube videos of the process, easy to do especially for a dealer with a lift. The main thing you are paying for is the fluid, should be an hour or less of labor easily.

I’m wondering if they overquoted you as well. I looked up on Bernardi parts, and it is like $12.99 or something a quart. Unless we need like 12 quarts for the job, $150 sounds a bit much for the fluid alone too.

 

[RAD1HGCV2F9]

RAD1HGCV2F9,

Given your mileage... are you aware of the 10AT maintenance required at about 90k? I was talking to one of the service reps at the dealer about approx cost of services.. while he didn't give a comprehensive list he did mention the 10AT required a $500 service. He said it was expensive because it's a long process... something like:

• Drain fluid, fill with special 'flush'
• Drive car for certain number of miles or through some specific driving pattern... I guess to make sure the fluid circulates properly throughout
• Drain flush fluid
• Fill with new fluid (I don't recall if he said it was a special type or if it was standard)

Has anybody else heard that? I don't imagine too many 10G owners are at/near the 90k mark yet.

I know mine was changed at 50K and considering I use the car well to its full potential a $500 service is a good peace of mind to keep my trans happy for the next few years. I don't disagree that its operpriced for what is the cost of 2 fills of trans fluid but i dont want to know what it would be to have honda replace the trans either.

 

[jmmch65]

A change of ATF at 50K is too soon for most vehicles. Close to 100K makes more sense.