[MoneyPitFL]

What in the world is going on here?

Car is driven in South Florida, no pot holes in my driving habits that I remember (I'm very boring, I don't go anywhere but work and the boat)...
Brought the car in because I thought a wheel bearing was going bad. Dealership calls back and says "Your rear two tires need to be replaced, and your alignment needs to be done".

Then when I asked how only the rear alignment is out, he starts talking about the fronts needing to be replaced too.

At that point I said "thank you for this unfortunate information, I'll be picking the car up this afternoon...

I will admit I am totally shocked. If this is the normal for an accord sport I'll be looking to get out of this lease ASAP. I've owned other "sports" editions of cars, before this one it was a Lexus IS 350 F Sport. That one also liked to eat tires, but not at 14,000 miles, and it was the fronts, not the rears.

So Drive Accord friends, is this normal for this car? I've already decided the next lease I get will be bottom of the barrel with the cheapest tires I can find on it. I expected more from Honda engineering.

Is there any kind of tire warranty that you're aware of on a stock car leased from a dealership? I did also buy the tire and wheel insurance but not sure that would cover this.

 

[easymike]

There absolutely should be a tire warranty. They should be covered to 60-70k. Tire warranty is some weird combination of tread depth vs miles. It won't cover the replacement, but should cover a percentage of the cost of new tires shipped to you. If the early demise was caused by poor alignment, then you may be out of luck.

 

[MoneyPitFL]

There absolutely should be a tire warranty. They should be covered to 60-70k. Tire warranty is some weird combination of tread depth vs miles. It won't cover the replacement, but should cover a percentage of the cost of new tires shipped to you. If the early demise was caused by poor alignment, then you may be out of luck.

Thanks for the comment. I'd almost wager that the car was delivered with a bad alignment as the roads I am on are fairly new and I'm not sure I've ever seen a pot hole here in the Keys.

I'm sure it will be found to have a bad alignment...........and I'll be on the hook. So you're saying that 12k is never the norm, for even sport tires..?

 

[emeron]

Ok that's what the service salesperson said as talk is free and anyone with a mouth can exercise their right to it. Don't trust anything a salesperson says. Take a look at the tires yourself. Or play dumb and have them show you how the tires are used up. At this mileage the tires should have been rotated twice, and anything out of the ordinary should have been caught a few thousand miles ago (hindsight 20/20). Tires were rotated, right?

 

[Andrew O]

What in the world is going on here?

Car is driven in South Florida, no pot holes in my driving habits that I remember (I'm very boring, I don't go anywhere but work and the boat)...
Brought the car in because I thought a wheel bearing was going bad. Dealership calls back and says "Your rear two tires need to be replaced, and your alignment needs to be done".

Then when I asked how only the rear alignment is out, he starts talking about the fronts needing to be replaced too.

At that point I said "thank you for this unfortunate information, I'll be picking the car up this afternoon...

I will admit I am totally shocked. If this is the normal for an accord sport I'll be looking to get out of this lease ASAP. I've owned other "sports" editions of cars, before this one it was a Lexus IS 350 F Sport. That one also liked to eat tires, but not at 14,000 miles, and it was the fronts, not the rears.

So Drive Accord friends, is this normal for this car? I've already decided the next lease I get will be bottom of the barrel with the cheapest tires I can find on it. I expected more from Honda engineering.

Is there any kind of tire warranty that you're aware of on a stock car leased from a dealership? I did also buy the tire and wheel insurance but not sure that would cover this.

Lexus IS 350 F Sport. That one also liked to eat tires, but not at 14,000 miles
maybe it's your style of driving??

 

[easymike]

So you're saying that 12k is never the norm, for even sport tires..?

Correct. Unless you spend a lot of time at the track, you should get close to the warranty-life out of a set of tires for summer usage. I have 22k on my Sport and the tires have probably around 6/32 out of what I believe was 8/32 from the dealer, and they're super smooth on the highway in CT. My money is on poor alignment damaged the tires. get a gauge and measure the tread depth. even that is likely going to be OK, the issue is probably uneven wear/out of round. That's why warranty claim is going to be tough.

 

[MoneyPitFL]

Lexus IS 350 F Sport. That one also liked to eat tires, but not at 14,000 miles
maybe it's your style of driving??

You mean on flat and straight roads? ha ha - yes I like to drive faster than the speed limit...

Ok that's what the service salesperson said as talk is free and anyone with a mouth can exercise their right to it. Don't trust anything a salesperson says. Take a look at the tires yourself. Or play dumb and have them show you how the tires are used up. At this mileage the tires should have been rotated twice, and anything out of the ordinary should have been caught a few thousand miles ago (hindsight 20/20). Tires were rotated, right?

They were rotated at 5k. not since then.

 

[2Accordz]

When someone like a tech says: "your car is out of alignment" ask them to produce the printed specs from the Hunter machine, or whatever they use.
It's all here say without it.
So...does the car wander??
Are the tires scalloped or scuffed?? because those are real indicators the car needs an alignment. If not, ask them to produce the report.

So Drive Accord friends, is this normal for this car? I've already decided the next lease I get will be bottom of the barrel with the cheapest tires I can find on it.

Pretzel logic.

Your tires are the single biggest(and lowest cost) thing you can do to significantly improve your vehicle's handling.
Buying low end tires does not increase your objectives, it will only detract from the ride and longevity of the tread life.

 

[MoneyPitFL]

Correct. Unless you spend a lot of time at the track, you should get close to the warranty-life out of a set of tires for summer usage. I have 22k on my Sport and the tires have probably around 6/32 out of what I believe was 8/32 from the dealer, and they're super smooth on the highway in CT. My money is on poor alignment damaged the tires. get a gauge and measure the tread depth. even that is likely going to be OK, the issue is probably uneven wear/out of round. That's why warranty claim is going to be tough.

So annoyed over here. Oh well. The dealer wants 200+ a tire of course and 179 to align.

Anyone have any recommendations on tires they like that aren't the stock ones?

 

[easymike]

So annoyed over here. Oh well. The dealer wants 200+ a tire of course and 179 to align.

Anyone have any recommendations on tires they like that aren't the stock ones?

I've been eyeballing Continental Pure Contact LS for my next set. The OEM Goodyears are less than what I want them to be

 

[2Accordz]

I've been eyeballing Continental Pure Contact LS for my next set. The OEM Goodyears are less than what I want them to be

Have them on my '14 and they've been awesome, so far.

 

[Andrew O]

So annoyed over here. Oh well. The dealer wants 200+ a tire of course and 179 to align.

Anyone have any recommendations on tires they like that aren't the stock ones?

if you are not into burning your tires consider Michelin Defender T+H Tire is Michelin's longest wearing passenger tire, offering 130,000km of confident driving with uncompromised safety and a quiet, ...
I switched wheel/tire on the first day of ownership, to 225/50/17", now after ~13700miles tires look like new, there are 80K miles warranty on these tires, 17" tires are much cheaper than 19" if you want to save some money long term

 

[easymike]

Have them on my '14 and they've been awesome, so far.

The LS, or the original Purecontact? I had the old ones on my 14 LX (16") and they had a short tread life, but the LS is supposed to be something new

...consider Michelin Defender T+H ...

I believe this was also the highest rated in it's segment by Consumer Reports, but I'm not sure if it comes in 19"

 

[MoneyPitFL]

When someone like a tech says: "your car is out of alignment" ask them to produce the printed specs from the Hunter machine, or whatever they use.
It's all here say without it.
So...does the car wander??
Are the tires scalloped or scuffed?? because those are real indicators the car needs an alignment. If not, ask them to produce the report.

That is why I'm shocked here, the car does not wander at all, other than the noise from the rear that SOUNDS like a bad bearing, there doesn't seem to be any problem with the car. I asked him how the rear tires get knocked out of alignment but the front ones do not. He had no answer other than to start talking about how it does look like the fronts are wearing uneven as well.

I will have the car back later this afternoon, till then I won't be able to report actual conditions or pictures.

I've had the car for about 1.5 years and it'll be going back to the dealership in 1.5 years. The main goal is going to be to not get hit with another 1000 dollars in tire costs upon turning it in.

 

[emeron]

I've been eyeballing Continental Pure Contact LS for my next set. The OEM Goodyears are less than what I want them to be

They were a huge upgrade over the stock junk at a reasonable price in my experience. But then again almost anything will be an upgrade over oem goodyears.

Which Continental tires for 2013 Accord?

Driving a 2013 EX-L Accord (CVT 4). What would you buy and why if choosing between Continental tires (215/55/17): Pure Contact LS V rated Extreme Contact DWS06 Wrated

www.driveaccord.net

 

[Honda2014]

I’ve personally had almost no issues with the Michelin’s I bought. They seem to last a good while without issues. If you want good after sale service, I’d recommend getting them at Costco. They’re not the cheapest, but you get free rotations, free balancing (once per year i think) when you get all 4 tires together from them. They also have prorated road hazard warranty on top of the standard tire warranty (50-60k miles). I’ve used it a few times. Very good service.

 

[ryannel2003]

My 2019 Sport needed tires at 13k miles. I'll go ahead and let you know the service manager might help you out and give you a good deal on tires but there is no warranty from Honda on the tires. In that situation you would need to contact Goodyear and see if they would be willing to help you out.

I'll say this: the tire size for this Accord is a weird one. If you do get another set of tires I put Goodyear Assurance MaxLife on my 2019 Accord Sport, They are rated for 85k miles and they are smoother and quieter than the Goodyear Eagle Sport that came from the factory. They are reasonably priced too.

The LS, or the original Purecontact? I had the old ones on my 14 LX (16") and they had a short tread life, but the LS is supposed to be something new


I believe this was also the highest rated in it's segment by Consumer Reports, but I'm not sure if it comes in 19"

Unfortunately the only Michelin's you can get for this car are Primacy MXM4 or Pilot Sport. The Defender's are only available on the LX and EX trim levels. If I could put Defender's on this car I would.

 

[2Accordz]

The LS, or the original Purecontact? I had the old ones on my 14 LX (16") and they had a short tread life, but the LS is supposed to be something new


I believe this was also the highest rated in it's segment by Consumer Reports, but I'm not sure if it comes in 19"

The LS.

 

[MoneyPitFL]

My 2019 Sport needed tires at 13k miles. I'll go ahead and let you know the service manager might help you out and give you a good deal on tires but there is no warranty from Honda on the tires. In that situation you would need to contact Goodyear and see if they would be willing to help you out.

I'll say this: the tire size for this Accord is a weird one. If you do get another set of tires I put Goodyear Assurance MaxLife on my 2019 Accord Sport, They are rated for 85k miles and they are smoother and quieter than the Goodyear Eagle Sport that came from the factory. They are reasonably priced too.

What was the cause of yours needing tires at 13k miles?

 

[ryannel2003]

What was the cause of yours needing tires at 13k miles?

The car was hydroplaining really badly during a bad rainstorm one day. The outside edges were 3-4/32nd's and the inside part of the tread was 2-3/32nd's. I could've waited until 14k but it was scary to drive.