[RjRacing]

Are those real CCW's?

Sure they look like crap in 18" and on our Accords, but that's a damn nice wheel if it's a CCW. 19" and 20" definitely look the best.

Is anyone good at photoshop? I'd LOOVE to see a set of 20" bbs lm reps (I can provide my car at whatever angle and rims at whatever angle as there are tons of pics on google images). I think with a slight drop this would look absolutely killer on these 9th Gen Accords

This will give you some idea. Found this here on a 9th Gen, 18", but look larger at this angle
http://www.driveaccord.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=44464&stc=1&d=1350526466
I believe the 8th Gen has 20s

I love BBS LM's and had a set on my 335i and VW R32, but I think they don't fit the accord well. These wheels (like CCW classics too) are racing wheels made for high performance cars on the track. The accord does not fit that category at all and almost seems ricer like to mimic that style with an accord... like putting a big spoiler on the rear of your car. I'm not saying it looks horrible, but wheels like Vossen and Velgen are designed for touring/luxury cars and fit our body style better IMO.

 

[ousooner2]

So a 335i and VW r32 are high performance track cars? That's news to me....


There's a lot of cars here that aren't even close to track cars that look damn good with BBS LM's or replica's.
https://www.google.com/search?q=var...tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=PAUOU_OqIaPW2QWyu4DwDQ&ved=0CCcQsAQ#imgdii=_

https://www.google.com/search?q=var...channel=fflb&q=bbs+lm&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&safe=off&tbm=isch&imgdii=_

 

[RjRacing]

So a 335i and VW r32 are high performance track cars? That's news to me....


There's a lot of cars here that aren't even close to track cars that look damn good with BBS LM's or replica's.
https://www.google.com/search?q=var...tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=PAUOU_OqIaPW2QWyu4DwDQ&ved=0CCcQsAQ#imgdii=_

https://www.google.com/search?q=var...channel=fflb&q=bbs+lm&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&safe=off&tbm=isch&imgdii=_

They sure have the potential to be, especially when compared to an accord and you would be ignorant to argue otherwise. Both those chassis are used in World Touring racing... where the BBS LM's were designed for use. Almost all of those cars in the pictures are actual performance cars, not large FWD sedans. I never said they look bad, I said they don't fit the accords "personality". You can play boy racer in your accord if you want, but my opinion (and most real tuners) is that racing wheels belong on cars that have potential to race... just like large spoilers and fart cans. Racing knock off's only amplify that scenario.

 

[sLAKERZ]

I think it's more of an aesthetics thing. Large spoilers and fart cans ruin the aesthetics, but those wheels do not. The BBS are sportier for sure. It's what you want for your own car. Some people just want a little more "sport" here and a little less "luxury" there. Personal preference. That's why there's a trim named "Sport"

 

[RjRacing]

I think it's more of an aesthetics thing. Large spoilers and fart cans ruin the aesthetics, but those wheels do not. The BBS are sportier for sure. It's what you want for your own car. Some people just want a little more "sport" here and a little less "luxury" there. Personal preference. That's why there's a trim named "Sport"

I understand, but do you think a large spoiler and large exhaust on a M3, Viper, Corvette, GTR, or Evo ruins the appearance? No, because they are performance cars that use them as function, not form, and is not trying to be something that it's not. Get my drift? If you understood the long heritage in racing the BBS LM has you might understand where I'm coming from.

 

[ousooner2]

They sure have the potential to be, especially when compared to an accord and you would be ignorant to argue otherwise. Both those chassis are used in World Touring racing... where the BBS LM's were designed for use. Almost all of those cars in the pictures are actual performance cars, not large FWD sedans. I never said they look bad, I said they don't fit the accords "personality". You can play boy racer in your accord if you want, but my opinion (and most real tuners) is that racing wheels belong on cars that have potential to race... just like large spoilers and fart cans. Racing knock off's only amplify that scenario.

Anything has the potential to be. Hell...'performance' in and of itself is an opinion based on the person. Some people might think a 300hp is a performance vehicle, while some believe it's a grocery getter.

Before you run your mouth about who might or might not be a boy racer you should know that I didn't have a 'potentially' fast and trackable car. I DID have a very fast and trackable car. '01 Cobra Full bolt-on, full Bassani/UPR exhaust, full QA1/MM suspension, and the list goes on and on and on and on. I'm sure as hell not going to act like my Accord is fast, trackable, etc.

It sounds like you're a little insecure or you believe everyone that owns an Accord is a ricer that thinks their car is fast, which is extremely odd to me because YOU OWN AN ACCORD. Not everyone is like what you're thinking up in your noggin.

On another note, you say you run Vossens on your Accord. Vossens are on quite a few vehicles out there that are WAY more performance based than your Accord. So why do you have them? :dunno: My point is that wheels are an aesthetic thing for 99% of situations. Sure certain wheel companies are most biased towards performance based vehicles, but does that exclude them from other vehicles? The LM is a road wheel. They make track wheels also....

 

[sLAKERZ]

I understand, but do you think a large spoiler and large exhaust on a M3, Viper, Corvette, GTR, or Evo ruins the appearance? No, because they are performance cars that use them as function, not form, and is not trying to be something that it's not. Get my drift? If you understood the long heritage in racing the BBS LM has you might understand where I'm coming from.

I understand where you're coming from and the heritage of the BBS LM, but I think it's just going to happen regardless with people who are not into racing as a hobby/profession, but still appreciate and want to connect with racing. An example would be people who buy/wear fancy NBA shoes for the looks and style. (Not that I do). In addition to the looks and style, they may feel more of a connection to the sport. I think the spoilers and fart cans are birthed from that mentality, yes... but so are a lot of good things (good looking underbody spoilers for example) Do you think it's brand thing as well as the heritage? Like wearing fake rolexes? Just curious.

 

[RjRacing]

Anything has the potential to be. Hell...'performance' in and of itself is an opinion based on the person. Some people might think a 300hp is a performance vehicle, while some believe it's a grocery getter.

Before you run your mouth about who might or might not be a boy racer you should know that I didn't have a 'potentially' fast and trackable car. I DID have a very fast and trackable car. '01 Cobra Full bolt-on, full Bassani/UPR exhaust, full QA1/MM suspension, and the list goes on and on and on and on. I'm sure as hell not going to act like my Accord is fast, trackable, etc.

It sounds like you're a little insecure or you believe everyone that owns an Accord is a ricer that thinks their car is fast, which is extremely odd to me because YOU OWN AN ACCORD. Not everyone is like what you're thinking up in your noggin.

On another note, you say you run Vossens on your Accord. Vossens are on quite a few vehicles out there that are WAY more performance based than your Accord. So why do you have them? :dunno: My point is that wheels are an aesthetic thing for 99% of situations. Sure certain wheel companies are most biased towards performance based vehicles, but does that exclude them from other vehicles? The LM is a road wheel. They make track wheels also....

I shared an opinion and the only insecurities came out with you on your response. Vossens are not designed for racing cars, they actually target the Honda/Acura group. They are single piece cast wheels that are heavy and would flex to much or even break with track duty. I have three sets of racing Enkei wheels for my race car, I would never think about using the Vossens. You do know that stock for stock a 335i is as fast and handles better than your "race mustang" right? Yet you just said the 335i was not race worthy... you make no sense.

I understand where you're coming from and the heritage of the BBS LM, but I think it's just going to happen regardless with people who are not into racing as a hobby/profession, but still appreciate and want to connect with racing. An example would be people who buy/wear fancy NBA shoes for the looks and style. (Not that I do). In addition to the looks and style, they may feel more of a connection to the sport. I think the spoilers and fart cans are birthed from that mentality, yes... but so are a lot of good things (good looking underbody spoilers for example) Do you think it's brand thing as well as the heritage? Like wearing fake rolexes? Just curious.

I see what your saying and agree. To me its more like a white guy with corn-rolls, baggy clothes, sagging pants, big chains and a "grill" - accessorizing to try to be something its not. Some may think it looks like he's a cool gangsta' but I think it looks goofy. Its my opinion and I'm entitled to it.

 

[ousooner2]

I shared an opinion and the only insecurities came out with you on your response. Vossens are not designed for racing cars, they actually target the Honda/Acura group. They are single piece cast wheels that are heavy and would flex to much or even break with track duty. I have three sets of racing Enkei wheels for my race car, I would never think about using the Vossens. You do know that stock for stock a 335i is as fast and handles better than your "race mustang" right? Yet you just said the 335i was not race worthy... you make no sense.

Lol ok bud. You're obviously not getting it. Clearly they target Honda/Acura because you go to their main pages and you don't see a single Honda or Acura. A quick glance at their social media attempts through the likes of Youtube show they target Audi, BMW, Dodge, Chevy, etc. Not much for the Honda.

By the way, you were talking about potential no? Please reread what you write if you forget it by the time you hit SUBMIT REPLY.

Also, what the hell is a race mustang?

And where did I say the 335i is not 'race worthy'? WTF does race worthy even mean!! lol

 

[RjRacing]

Lol ok bud. You're obviously not getting it. Clearly they target Honda/Acura because you go to their main pages and you don't see a single Honda or Acura.

By the way, you were talking about potential no? Please reread what you write if you forget it by the time you hit SUBMIT REPLY.

Also, what the hell is a race mustang?

And where did I say the 335i is not 'race worthy'?

You should listen to your own advise, see bellow. Vossen is/was even a sponsor on the board and are very active on Acurazine forums. On their website click on gallery and you will see lots of accords.

So a 335i and VW r32 are high performance track cars? That's news to me....

.... I DID have a very fast and trackable car. '01 Cobra ...

Your "Race Mustang" thats what I'm referring to it as

 

[ousooner2]

So it's a 'race mustang' (insert condescending voice), but yet you go on to talk about stock for stock and how awesome your 335i was?

...confused. You said 335i and VW r32 (or are we talking potential....seems you get to choose what suits your argument) are high performance track cars and that's what BBS LM's belong on correct.....seeing as how you had them on those.

On another note, where did I talk about your 335i not being 'race worthy'? Also, if you could include a definition of race worthy that would be fantastic.


Vossen is active on TONS of boards. That proves absolutely nothing.

 

[sLAKERZ]

Both of you are entitled to your opinion. It's a good discussion point. Now kiss and make up already! :hug:

BTW, what do you guys think about these on our Accord?

 

[ousooner2]

^ Do they come in 28's? :naughty:

 

[RjRacing]

Mmm, some 24K gold 100 spoke Daytons... those come with curb scrapers right?

 

[PogiMoto]

I didn't know accord is categorized as a "luxury vehicle?" I could've sworn it was a average mid size family car. :dunno:

 

[RjRacing]

Vossens target market... http://www.vossenwheels.com/gallery/
BBS's target market... http://www.bbs-usa.com/vehicle-gallery.cfm

Nough' said. Lets leave it there and see some more wheel pictures.

 

[PogiMoto]

Vossens are just heavy, I see them more on Cadillacs in the south then anywhere else in the country.

 

[ousooner2]

Vossens target market... http://www.vossenwheels.com/gallery/
BBS's target market... http://www.bbs-usa.com/vehicle-gallery.cfm

Nough' said. Lets leave it there and see some more wheel pictures.

Nah. I think I'll keep dabbling in this.

So....according to your example...

They both look like the cover the same manufacturers.

Vossen = Porsche, Benz, Maserati, Lexus, Dodge, Ford, BMW, Bently, etc etc. They sure as hell cover Ferrari and other exotics too.

https://www.google.com/search?q=vos...tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=D2UPU9zVFqS52QWwxICYDA&ved=0CCcQsAQ&biw=1600&bih=1115


https://www.google.com/search?q=vos...5#channel=fflb&q=vossen+exotic&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&safe=off&tbm=isch



BBS = BMW, Ferrari, Porsche, Benz, Audi, etc etc.



Looks like they both cover a pretty wide spectrum and have wheel designs for all areas. Vossen might even be able to be okay on that high performance track vehicle that you call a VW R32. Even the 335i!!

VW R32/BWM 335i > Ferrari/Porsche/Benz/Lambo/etc as 'high performance track vehicles'

...according to you at least. Sure BBS has more of an off the road track record, but does that mean ANY of their wheels ONLY belong on a high performance track car like your big bad 335i?


Come on man.

 

[namegoeshere]

Vossens target market... http://www.vossenwheels.com/gallery/
BBS's target market... http://www.bbs-usa.com/vehicle-gallery.cfm

Nough' said. Lets leave it there and see some more wheel pictures.

If hosting/showing pics of cars with BBS wheels = car is their target market, then that must mean that Fiat 500, Honda Fit, Acura TSX, Chevy Tahoe, Volvo V70, and Chevy Express owners are BBS targets.

Vossen doesn't have a specific target market. They'll whore themselves out to anyone. All they care about is $$$

 

[ousooner2]

Vossen doesn't have a specific target market. They'll whore themselves out to anyone. All they care about is $$$

True story