[RickBlaine]

I would like to know, has ANYONE ever had a subsequent issue by leaving the rotor screws off after doing a brake job? Most people say that the screws don't matter. Fine. Anyone have proof that they do matter?

I just want to know, did you develop a problem by leaving them off? What was the problem? Front or rear? How many miles later?

 

[rszappa1]

No you don't need to put them back on and there will be no problems.....

 

[RickBlaine]

No you don't need to put them back on and there will be no problems.....

I just wanna find one person that said they should have left the rotor screws on because_________ happened and now they will do 20 to life for manslaughter, or something like that....

 

[mobiless2]

No need for them, they only hold rotor in place to mount caliper easier.

 

[RickBlaine]

Anyone?

 

[KennyD]

No need for them, they only hold rotor in place to mount caliper easier.

I replaced all of mine. Why? because they were 20 cents and it made my life a little easier.

aranoid: I was found not guilty after pleading that the screw was faulty once. aranoid:

 

[RickBlaine]

aranoid: I was found not guilty after pleading that the screw was faulty once. aranoid:

The Blaming of the Screw.....sorry, I had to.

 

[[ChaosweaveR]]

You don't need it.

It does make life easier, but I've never had that much of an issue putting the caliper back on these Accords after a brake job. I've never done the brakes on my own Accord yet, but I have done numerous brake jobs on 7th gens.

 

[silvercord]

For me, the problem was not removing them earlier. The screws rusted and the impact screwdriver only took out 2 screws. Had to drill the other 2 out. Never put them back and don't miss them.

 

[Arkainzeye]

do you understand what the point of the screw are in the first place??

you do understand that when you tighten your lug nuts, that the force of that alone leaves the rotor tightly in place.. also... the rotor will not just "fall off" the caliper would stop that anyways.. (unless removed).

 

[Drew03Accord]

The rotors are held on by the clamping force of the wheel to the hub via the lug nuts and studs. For the rotor to move, your wheel would have to be loose or falling off. Ditch the screws.

 

[PurdueSilver]

Removing them was the biggest pita. Had to drill out both and went through two good bits. Didn't replace them and the next set of brakes worked just fine. Being only one piston caliper the inside pad wore considerably faster but like I said in other threads I'm happy with the warranty and no cost to replace other than my own time.

 

[SteelyJoe]

Mine are long gone. The screws are there for the assembly line - to hold the rotors on to the hub before the calipers and pads are installed. The screws do not (and are not nearly strong enough to) provide any support.

I now make a habit of removing them when I see them whenever wheels are off on my parent's and friend's cars. This way, I get to them before they rust on. Saves me a headache down the road should any of these cars need rotors.

My sister lives in upstate New York, and the salted roads made them impossible to remove, even with an Impact Screwdriver. I had to drill them out (major PITA), and did not replace them. No issues.

 

[OG_Zuninja]

I'm now serving 20 years thanks to my wheels flying off into a factory where small children worked and started an unstoppable inferno. Everyone died. I'll do 15 if I behave. All of this because I didn't replace those screws.

 

[cintocrunch]

This thread has taken an interesting direction...

As has been stated, these screws simply held the rotor on during vehicle assembly...no need for them to remain on...

That being said, if they are in good condition and I do not bugger up the threads removing them, I usually reinstall them with some anti-seize just to have them there for absolutely no reason (maybe to make sure the rotor is tight to the hub before I install the wheel, preventing vibrations and retorquing of the lug nuts...

 

[RickBlaine]

This thread has taken an interesting direction...

As has been stated, these screws simply held the rotor on during vehicle assembly...no need for them to remain on...

That being said, if they are in good condition and I do not bugger up the threads removing them, I usually reinstall them with some anti-seize just to have them there for absolutely no reason (maybe to make sure the rotor is tight to the hub before I install the wheel, preventing vibrations and retorquing of the lug nuts...

I wondered about that. After my brake job, I noticed the rear brake rotors and "attached" caliper and brake pads moved just a little as I was mounting the wheels back on. I know the lug nuts would hold everything in place, but while torquing them down to 79 foot pounds I noticed this slight movement.

With my own eyes, I have seen a few mechanics at the Honda dealer and independent garages improperly install wheels by either torquing them down in a circular pattern, and/or by torquing them WAY over 79 lbs.

So I guess the question is: Do Honda engineers require rotor screws to minimize damage from improperly re-installing wheels? Would the screws help if the wheel is re-installed poorly?

 

[ikethegreat]

My parents died thanks to a missing rotor screw.

 

[RickBlaine]

My parents died thanks to a missing rotor screw.

I am sorry for the loss of your parents. Hey how 'bout that Superbowl this year?

 

[cintocrunch]

I wondered about that. After my brake job, I noticed the rear brake rotors and "attached" caliper and brake pads moved just a little as I was mounting the wheels back on. I know the lug nuts would hold everything in place, but while torquing them down to 79 foot pounds I noticed this slight movement.

With my own eyes, I have seen a few mechanics at the Honda dealer and independent garages improperly install wheels by either torquing them down in a circular pattern, and/or by torquing them WAY over 79 lbs.

So I guess the question is: Do Honda engineers require rotor screws to minimize damage from improperly re-installing wheels? Would the screws help if the wheel is re-installed poorly?

I hate 99% of mechanics because of little things like this...I've dealt with stripped lugs on my Pathfinder and lug nuts I needed my 1/2" drive IR air impact to remove on my wife's Sonata. I called and chewed out the service manager at the dealer without telling him what it was for...made me feel better and got a good chuckle later thinking about his reaction...

My parents died thanks to a missing rotor screw.

Holy chit that's dark man...stay away from HarCo with that

I am sorry for the loss of your parents. Hey how 'bout that Superbowl this year?

What you know about the Ravens? How about them O's? It's good to be in Baldymore right about now...

 

[RickBlaine]

Cinto: I've had broken lug bolts and lug nuts screwed on so tight I could not remove them (and I was a body builder). Back when I was an apartment dweller in Washington, DC, my Civic and I were at the mercy of the local Honda dealer.

The last time I went for an oil change, I knew they would screw up the tire air pressure and over-tighten the lug nuts. I called out the service manager right then and there and handed him my torque wrench. The lugs varied, but none were under 130 foot pounds.

There are threads here about how rotors get warped. Improper torque tightening and pattern on the lugs can contribute to warped rotors. I am wondering if the screws can cut down on this- and Honda figures many "mechanics" will NOT use a torque wrench and proper lug tightening patterns so screws help minimize this chance of warping.

If we do the work ourselves, I would assume we mount the wheels properly. So screws or no screws it does not matter. Maybe I should have asked only those that do not work on their cars if leaving rotor screws out leads to warping....but then those folks probably would not know what a rotor screw was.