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There are some excellent timing chain tensioner posts for the 9th generation K24. I've read all that popped up on a search. The tutorials demonstrate that it's a fairly simple DIY fix, just be careful not to lose any parts into the engine!

I still have a question.

I see the notches on the tensioner, which I assume "lock in a stepwise manner" so that the post gradually extends farther out over time. I realize there is hydraulic oil pressure that pushes this tensioner to take up slack once running. I assume that both of these are responsible for the overall function. This would mean that the oil pressure is required to have an active pushing function during operation, and the notches keep the tensioner from retracting SO MUCH when the engine is turned off. This jibes with the reports that the first startup after installing a new tensioner always produces a rattle because the tensioner hasn't had a change to extend until that first burst of oil pressure occurs...once it extends, the notches prevent it from retracting more than the next closest notch, which helps prevent the rattle.

I'm wondering if a tensioner that demonstrates a rattle at cold startup might STOP the cold-start rattle if the next-most-tight notch is engaged when the engine is running. Of course, if the farthest notch is engaged and there is a rattle, it's not going to magically stop rattling. Since I've only heard it rattle briefly at cold start-up three times (and not every time), why not give it a chance to reach the next notch if it's not already at it's limit? Or, do I just need to go ahead and do it?

Thanks for any insight/suggestions/experience.
 
This has been discussed before. I believe you don't want to do that. Forcing the tensioner to extend by one extra teeth puts extra stress that can cause additional wear.
 
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Yeah I don't think you want to do that either. I replaced the cam chain tensioner but it did not completely solve my problem. I also had to replace a spring inside a gear in the head.

That and more are described in this thread: 2016 Accord - Rattle On Startup, Intermittent Oil...
 
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This has been discussed before. I believe you don't want to do that. Forcing the tensioner to extend by one extra teeth puts extra stress that can cause additional wear.
Thanks!
But, I wasn't talking about forcing the tensioner out to the next notch...I was assuming the oil pressure and/or spring forces it out a bit...and after some time, the next notch engages and doesn't allow the tensioner to retract more than that new notch.
 
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Yeah I don't think you want to do that either. I replaced the cam chain tensioner but it did not completely solve my problem. I also had to replace a spring inside a gear in the head.

That and more are described in this thread: 2016 Accord - Rattle On Startup, Intermittent Oil...
Ha! I missed that one during this Search, and see I even checked "Like" on this one! Thanks for pointing it out to me again. I think I didn't read it during my current search due to the car being a 2016...I thought these TCT were upgraded after the 2014 year so I assumed it wasn't applicable to mine. Much obliged for the link!
 
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Ordered the OEM part and Hondabond. Will tackle this in a couple of weeks. Looks easy enough. Thanks for the input to my questions and especially that link that I had overlooked!
 
I have done the same as well. However, seeing posts of CEL's for camshaft/crank correlation faults from some posters is concerning. They must have done something out of order with the TSB - like turning the crank more than 90 degrees or installing the tensioner incorrectly.
 
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I have done the same as well. However, seeing posts of CEL's for camshaft/crank correlation faults from some posters is concerning. They must have done something out of order with the TSB - like turning the crank more than 90 degrees or installing the tensioner incorrectly.
I missed the reports of CEL's. I'm assuming that was after they changed the tensioner. I'll be sure not to turn the crank more than the instructions on the TSB instruct. Thanks for the alert!
 
I performed the TSB yesterday without any issues. Removing the plate and scraping off the old Honda bond was the hardest part.
 
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Thanks to the help on this site, did the Cam Chain Tensioner replacement today. I did have to lever it in place a bit to line up the two bolts...but, since I was expecting that to be the case, it didn't cause too much concern. One rattling startup, and quiet as new on every startup afterward! Thanks again to those that posted their experiences and those that took pictures, that's extremely helpful.
 
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