[gbjharper]

I am having the VTC actuator replaced right now. My car would not start this morning. I called Honda Corp and they would not extend the warranty to pay for the repair (I am having the oil consumption issue as well) Do you have any magical words I could use to have them change their mind?

 

[qman]

I am having the VTC actuator replaced right now. My car would not start this morning. I called Honda Corp and they would not extend the warranty to pay for the repair (I am having the oil consumption issue as well) Do you have any magical words I could use to have them change their mind?

Try this: "What do you mean you won't cover the repair you m*th*f**k**g c**ks**k**g (add others as you please) worthless dealership."

Anything to add @jimijam?

 

[namegoeshere]

I am having the VTC actuator replaced right now. My car would not start this morning. I called Honda Corp and they would not extend the warranty to pay for the repair (I am having the oil consumption issue as well) Do you have any magical words I could use to have them change their mind?

http://youtu.be/RxWJd3w3QPs

 

[boring 08 EX]

^^^That ought to do it! LMAO

 

[97trophy]

ohhhhhh myyyyyyyyyyy

 

[Rattmann]

tell them that Honda knowingly did not issue a safety recall for engineering problems with the initial design .
Honda later redesigned the affected VTC parts and relabeled as R5A as resolution. But all this time only issued internal memo to discredit as many as possible cars requiring this replacement as "cannot duplicate problem" to the customers.
When customs demands it then to ask for 50% coverage only.
Your case is that Honda failed to inform and make necessary repairs to your Honda under the warranty period or withheld info from you to let the warranty expire.
Good look

 

[jimijam]

Try this: "What do you mean you won't cover the repair you m*th*f**k**g c**ks**k**g (add others as you please) worthless dealership."

Anything to add @jimijam?

Nope. You hit it right on the ass, @qman.

 

[internalaudit]

Got mine replaced yesterday under the extended warranty program.

Service Advisor confirmed that with known and easy fixes, why wouldn't they fix and charge Honda Canada for the job?

Will follow up for the work order details because maybe they billed Honda with additional repair work I don't know about. I asked for it and the gent just said I'm good to go???

 

[xSilence]

What do you mean VTC mesh?

 

[porschehuncho]

hmmmm

I have read many accounts from all the way back when this issue was new (2008 or so) on up to fairly recently that claim official responses (written or verbal) from various Honda sources to state that it cannot harm the engine. I have not read any of these first hand.

I have read ONE claim that I have seen quoted in a number of places that it *could* cause valves to impact piston tops if it allows the chain to slip (or jump?) a tooth. I tend to believe Honda in this case, as I have never read (or seen video) of one of these after failure that led to such damage. That does not mean it has not happened. It is just that most people affected by this problem are probably never going to post here, on YouTube, or anywhere else. I just think it odd that in such a community as this (DA) that NO ONE has had a failure like this, unless Honda is being accurate in saying it is not a "ticking time bomb" as you say.

I do all my own work these days. So, for me, whether it is a possible engine killer doesn't matter. If it is messed up *at all* I will fix it. Problem or not, it bugs the crap out of me. ;-)

As far as which vehicles are concerned, there are MANY. Here is a quote from one of my above links:

you are pgadmin?

 

[pindiwalAccord]

I'm not paying $500 to get mine VTC rattle fixed. I get the rattle on almost every startup. I now have 135,000 miles. I plan to keep it for at least 200k. The other PITA is oil consumption. I add a quart every 1000 miles. Other than that, I love my 2.4 I4 EX Accord.

 

[porschehuncho]

im getting the rattle nonstop this winter but the car mechanically seems pretty sound. no daSH LIGHGTS NO WIERD NOISES other than that winter morning rattle...and for $500 bucks you might as well swap out for another used engine instead of fixing this issue....so ill wait.

 

[WiiMaster]

I had my actuator done about a month ago for 650$ at a dealership. Haven't heard the rattle since. However, when I first got the car back, there was a check engine light. I left it with them and they found out the timing chain wasn't quite aligned right, it was off by a couple of teeth. They adjusted it and it's been working fine since.

About them not doing it if they can't hear the rattle, they didn't really care. The service manager I got claimed to be familiar with the issue, and was ready to replace it.


Another thing that's not quite on topic but he told me about the burning oil recall, and he said that one could actually skip the oil consumption test if one of the cylinders has a misfire. If there's a misfire, you can skip the test and they'll repair it.

 

[itr640]

Hello-

Here to share my story, 2009 4 cylinder EX-L:

Noticed the cold start rattle around 70k miles, I thought it was the catalytic converter heat shield (as common with other Honda's). After tightening, removing, re-installing at oil changes. It would only do it after a few thousand miles after an oil change. Noticed my oil light would flickering on at cold starts at roughly 50% oil life. I brought my car to Honda at 83k miles after receiving the extended warranty letter for the oil consumption issue, paid for the oil change to begin the consumption test. My car burned less than a quart per thousand miles and was deemed to not qualify for engine repair. One of the Advisers, acknowledged the VTC Actuator issue, others seemed to not know, but offered to have my car diagnosed at whatever fee they charge for diagnostics. All Advisers said to ignore the maintenance minder and change my oil every 5k at least.

For the last 10k miles it has rattled at cold start, no matter the temperature outside (I live in the midwest, so its -20 one day and 60 the next). It doesn't go away after oil changes anymore. I also switched to full synthetic oil. I am due for the spark plug and valve adjustment maintenance (100k miles) and I am tempted to have my trusted Honda specialist shop replace the VTC Actuator while doing the valve adjustment. My hesitation is spending $300+ to have it replaced, just for it to come back.

Those of you who have had it replaced recently, does it come back and how soon?

I have lived with it for 30k miles and have not had any additional problems. Will it last another 100k? I would like the car to last another 100k...

Thoughts?

 

[pindiwalAccord]

I have 140k miles and counting with the VTC rattle at startups. It's been there before 80k miles. I bought used.

 

[TRCar54]

Interesting thread.

Just for comparison.....

2009 Accord EX I4, automatic, original owner, never been to the dealer other than a transmission chip re-flash and air bag recall. I do all of the maintenance on my vehicles.

I Live in Massachusetts and have never had the VVT rattle or oil consumption issue. Car has had nothing but Mobil1 @ 7500 to 8000 mile intervals since it's first oil change and now has 170K trouble free miles logged.

This is a very solid car and has been very dependable other than short lived rear brake pads and the heat control light bulbs.

On the flip side though my daughter bought a used 45K mile 2010 EXL with same drive train at a dealer. Her car runs great but has a very rattly VVT and considerable oil consumption.

Go figure.

Best,
Jay in MA

 

[condor]

Interesting thread.

Just for comparison.....

2009 Accord EX I4, automatic, original owner, never been to the dealer other than a transmission chip re-flash and air bag recall. I do all of the maintenance on my vehicles.

I Live in Massachusetts and have never had the VVT rattle or oil consumption issue. Car has had nothing but Mobil1 @ 7500 to 8000 mile intervals since it's first oil change and now has 170K trouble free miles logged.

This is a very solid car and has been very dependable other than short lived rear brake pads and the heat control light bulbs.

On the flip side though my daughter bought a used 45K mile 2010 EXL with same drive train at a dealer. Her car runs great but has a very rattly VVT and considerable oil consumption.

Go figure.

Best,
Jay in MA

Were you able to replace the light bulbs on the hvac panel?

 

[emeron]

Interesting thread.

Just for comparison.....

2009 Accord EX I4, automatic, original owner, never been to the dealer other than a transmission chip re-flash and air bag recall. I do all of the maintenance on my vehicles.

I Live in Massachusetts and have never had the VVT rattle or oil consumption issue. Car has had nothing but Mobil1 @ 7500 to 8000 mile intervals since it's first oil change and now has 170K trouble free miles logged.

This is a very solid car and has been very dependable other than short lived rear brake pads and the heat control light bulbs.

On the flip side though my daughter bought a used 45K mile 2010 EXL with same drive train at a dealer. Her car runs great but has a very rattly VVT and considerable oil consumption.

Go figure.

Best,
Jay in MA

Hey, I'm told my rear brake pads need replaced, as well (while fronts are fine). I am wondering what makes rear pads to check-out so much sooner than the fronts. Dealership wants to sell me new rotors, too, but I am not sure if I need new pads AND rotors.

 

[TRCar54]

Were you able to replace the light bulbs on the hvac panel?

Not yet . I think I'll do that when it warms up a bit and my wife isn't needing the car for a while.

 

[TRCar54]

Hey, I'm told my rear brake pads need replaced, as well (while fronts are fine). I am wondering what makes rear pads to check-out so much sooner than the fronts. Dealership wants to sell me new rotors, too, but I am not sure if I need new pads AND rotors.

Apparently they had some composition issues. The part number has changed a number of times.

I changed the original front pads at 149K and they still had some meat left on them. I had to change the calipers and rotors 10K miles later. I really should have automatically changed them along with the pads at that mileage.