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Hope you all are doing great. I need some serious and honest advice in making the decision to buy the 10th Gen 2.0 T sport Accord. I have taken 3 test drives and I simply love the car but after having read negative reviews on the electrical failures and Honda sensing issues I am getting a bit shaky in making my purchase
 
It is VERY reliable.

End of story.

If you do not buy the Accord for concerns of reliability, what other car(s) did you have in mind as alternative for the Accord?

I came from a Nissan Maxima. Ask me if Maximas are reliable. I will tell you my Maxima was VERY reliable. From day one, I drove that car hard. I also kept maintenance top notch on the car. I treated the car very well. The car returned the favor. The car lasted me over 12 years with over 268,000 miles before it died.

If my Maxima can last that long and give me that many miles with good maintenance, I believe if anybody maintains their Accord very well, it will last them just as long or longer with same or a lot more miles.

Ask many people if a Maxima is reliable, many will tell you to stay away. But I had a great experience with mine. My Maxima was very well maintained. I plan to do exactly the same thing with my Honda Accord. Maintain it very well and hope it last a very long time.

Historically, Toyota Camry and Honda Accord have been known as benchmarks for reliability. Trust me, these companies have been improving on their cars over the years. So, if you trust in the historical reliability data of the Honda Accord, then go ahead and purchase your Accord. Maintain it well and sleep well as the car will last for a long time.

So, rest assured the Honda Accord is a VERY reliable car.
 
I kept my 7th-gen '07 for 13 years, so that should say something about the confidence I have with this vehicle.

I do think the 2.0T is likely to be long-term more reliable than the 1.5T, but Honda puts a lot of effort into attaining and improving reliability so I wouldn't exactly call the small engine a risky buy either.
 
An online forum devoted to a particular car model is a very poor place to seek objective opinions on that car. The members will be about evenly divided between loving fanboys who will turn a blind eye to the most obvious defects, and cranks with an axe to grind who join the forum only to vent their spleen. If you didn't feel strong emotions about the car one way or another, it's doubtful you'd join a forum in the first place.

That said, I'll provide one data point. My 2018 Accord Sport 2.0T 6MT with 14K miles has been reliable so far and hasn't developed any Honda Sensing faults. However, it has enough build quality issues that I don't have the same confidence in its continued reliability as I did with my previous Honda products.
 
My experience in two years, mechanically typical Honda. But Honda sensing is in its first generation and Honda has never done electronics well. The apple play and interface have locked up several times but fixed with a hard reset. The Honda sensing has failed several times but fixes itself when you restart the car, but you can't do that on a long road trip driving down the highway. The biggest issue I have with the 2.0 is limb mode in the rain from water entering the airbox. There is a thread here about it. Overall I love it being my 4th Honda, but I do think this will be my most unreliable because of the electronics and turbo. But I keep my cars for ten years, this might be the first I do not.
 
Would I buy this car again? Yes, but I'd get the 2.0. I also think Honda Sensing is crap at times. Flip on your turn signal, the quick three blink one, and sometimes the steering wheel shakes and says lane departure. Are you in a construction zone with faded lane markers or newly completed lane markings with faded ones close by? The brakes may kick in automatically. I've had that one the most. Most likely false positives and I doubt they can update the software for it. I do have a couple of squeaks and rattles, but I just live with it. Mechanically? I have a 2018 Sport 1.5t and absolutely zero issues. I do my regular maintenance. I went through the OEM tires and replaced them at 50k. I've had CarPlay mess up once and required a factory reset, but I have also updated the software wirelessly.

My only concern is the 1.5t engine. That has been problematic with the CRV. Did Honda make improvements with it in the Accord? Only time will tell. We don't have a good sample size of Accords from the 10th generation with over 200k.
 
Regardless, a car purchase is a big decision financially. If you're not sure, you could maybe lease one to trial it, and then you could buy it when the lease is up if all goes smoothly?
It sounds like everyone here has generally had good experiences with theirs so far, mechanically speaking- that doesn't mean that lemons don't exist.
 
Regardless, a car purchase is a big decision financially. If you're not sure, you could maybe lease one to trial it, and then you could buy it when the lease is up if all goes smoothly?
It sounds like everyone here has generally had good experiences with theirs so far, mechanically speaking- that doesn't mean that lemons don't exist.
This is exactly what I did when I got my first Accord back in 2016. Normally I'm a Toyota guy but the Toyota dealer wasn't really budging much on the price of the Camry that I wanted. I walked (literally) across the street, test drove an Accord, and decided to lease it with the option to buy it at the end of the term. Both the lease rate and the buyout were really decent deals in my opinion, so I figured the risk was worth it. After a few years with that Accord (a 2016), I was convinced that Honda builds a pretty darn good car. After that car was totaled in May, I again shopped both the Camry and Accord- and found that the Honda offered a lot more value (and features) for the price compared to the Camry. This time I purchased rather than leased.

That said- there's an awful lot of electronic stuff on the 2018+ Accord. A lot of it relies on the radar sensor in the bumper and the camera system behind the rearview mirror. While I'm convinced the engine and transmission will be reliable, I worry about the long-term reliability of the components of the HondaSensing system. I don't put a lot of miles on my car, so after a year or two I'll decide if the HondaCare extended warranty is something I should consider. So far, I haven't had a single issue with any of the electronics, other than the infotainment system rebooting once a day or two after an update was applied. It's been a pretty reliable car so far.

To the original poster:
If you are seriously looking at an Accord Sport 2.0t... consider the following before you spend your money:

1) Be sure that you are okay with the ride and tire noise. The 19" wheels and tires certainly look great- but the ride with the 19" wheels/tires is noticeably louder and rougher than Accords with the 17" wheels. Test drive the car over different road surfaces to see if you are okay with the ride and noise. Too many people don't take long enough test drives- or are distracted by the 'newness' of the car and don't realize the ride quality and noise until a few weeks after the purchase- and by then it's too late. Be sure you are okay with it, especially on rougher roads and on the highway.
2) Be double sure that you are okay with those 19" wheels and tires. They are susceptible to curb rash and are easily damaged by large potholes. A replacement alloy wheel is very expensive and it costs about $150-200 to refinish one if you scrape it on a curb. The tires provide ZERO protection against curb rash. If you park on the street- or get near a curb in any other situation- be extremely careful. Those wheels look awesome when they are shiny... but look horrible if they suffer curb rash. I speak from experience. I paid $180 to refinish a rim that suffered a large amount of curb rash after just a little contact with a curb.
3) Research the cost of replacement tires. They are expensive. I believe that all 2.0t Sport models come with Michelin MXM4 tires. They cost $250/each plus installation. Also be aware that the 19" Sport wheels are targeted by thieves in several different areas. If you live in one of those areas and insist on getting the Sport, make sure you have a low deductible on your comprehensive insurance.
4) Be aware that if you live in an area where you see snow, the 19" wheels/tires aren't great in the snow. There's a dedicated thread to snow tires for the 10th Generation Accord. You can see it here.
5) Be aware that although the 2.0t Sport is an awesome-looking car- mainly because of the wheels- you can probably get a 2.0t EX-L for the same amount of money (or even less) because those don't sell well in most markets- so dealers usually discount them more than the 2.0t Sport trim. You'll lose the nice 19" wheels, but gain leather, memory seats, a premium audio system, an auto-dimming mirror (a must for me), and exterior mirrors with turn signal indicators.

There's also a comprehensive resource thread with lots of links to information regarding the 10th Generation Accord here.
 
If you love the car, BUY IT! Reliability is a crap shoot regardless of what you buy, speaking from my own experience with Lexus. Those are supposed to be the most reliable things on the road. Don't buy a yawn on wheels because of the reliability, buy the car that you love to drive. If that car is the Accord, excellent! I'd put money on it lasting you the long haul.
 
I bought my 2018 Accord 2.0T Touring in September 2018, near the end of the first model year. So far at nearly 19K miles, it's been reliable to a fault and a gem to drive. The one thing that I did change---and it's been mentioned above---was the 19" wheels and tires. Never cared for the looks of those wheels. They were highly susceptible to curb rash, heavy and yielded a rougher, noisier ride than I wanted. So I bought 18" Enkei TFR wheels and 235/40/18 Pirelli tires. Made a significant improvement in ride, noise, MPG and acceleration due to the 64 lb weight loss. Other than that, simply a great car.
 
I had 2019 EXL 1.5 and put 21,000 miles on it. I had an annoying dash rattle that I never could get figured out. The false positives on the collision mitigation as mentioned prior were a nuisance. The positioning of the radar unit makes it prone to icing over in bad weather. As far as the mechanicals I had no problems whatsoever. Even the CVT was butter smooth. Over all I felt like it was a nice reliable car.
 
Just under 64,000 miles on my 2018 Touring w/ 2.0T-10AT. No problems at all. Even the Honda Sensing stuff works great. Only issue I had was uncomfortable driver's seat, but that was eventually fixed with the right number of cushions and blankets :).
 
I don't have a whole lot to add to the great posts in this thread already. I recently purchased a 2018 Touring and love it.

I will confirm what @RCarlL said about the wheels and curb rash. I curbed my front passenger wheel within 2 days of owning it because I didn't realize how susceptible they were (and admittedly my sloppy parking habits). Even since then I've curbed them a couple more times by accident. It really bothers me seeing it. I'm debating whether to have them repaired at a shop (not even sure if this is possible, the amount of curb rash is... it's a lot). I also wonder how much they contribute to road noise at high speed on less than ideal roads. I'm seriously considering just taking the loss and replacing the wheels with smaller ones when it comes time to replace my tires. I'm not particularly in love with how they look anyway.

Regarding Honda Sense, it's a contentious issue. There's a really nice thread elsewhere on this forum debating some of the nuances of it. Personally I love it, although having so many electronics does make me nervous (more potential points of failure).

Regarding the long term reliability, only time will tell. From what I can tell, Honda has a pretty good track record on reliability overall. I also purchased my car from Carmax. I undoubtedly overpaid for it because of this, but I was able to pick up their extended 5 year warranty for cheap, which covers electronics. This gives me a lot of comfort.

My only concern is the 1.5t engine. That has been problematic with the CRV. Did Honda make improvements with it in the Accord? Only time will tell. We don't have a good sample size of Accords from the 10th generation with over 200k.
What sort of problems?

The Honda sensing has failed several times but fixes itself when you restart the car, but you can't do that on a long road trip driving down the highway.
Yes, this has happened to me a few times. It's disconcerting but I just pull over and restart the car at the next easy opportunity and it has always fixed it.

Is there a way to restart the car while still rolling? I've been able to stop it but doesn't seem like we can start it again. Like in the "old days" with physical keys you could put a car in neutral and restart it while moving.
 
What sort of problems?
They are probably referring to the issue regarding gas getting into the oil in circumstances where the car doesn't run long enough to warm up completely on a regular basis. Honda did apparently make ECU changes to help with this issue.

You can read a really long thread about the topic here.
 
OP...If you are basing your car purchase on seeing some negative reviews online, I suggest public transportation. Hop over to Toyota/Lexus forums and look at the industry standard getting lambasted with enough hate and grief, you'd think they were behind diesal gate and covid.
 
2/3 of my previous Hondas had Transmission issues, but NONE had any engine issues ever.
If history repeats itself, the transmission will fail well before the Engine does.
 
2/3 of my previous Hondas had Transmission issues, but NONE had any engine issues ever.
If history repeats itself, the transmission will fail well before the Engine does.
Solved by buying a manual. Pity that Honda discontinued it.
 
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