[Steve182023]

Reviews of 2023 Accord posted

The 2023 Honda Accord Takes On A More Premium Electrified Family Car Mission

With so many other brands walking away from sedans, @Honda drops a fully redesigned version of. the #Accord for 2023! The 11th generation of the #HondaAccord...

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2024 Honda Accord Touring Review // You Can’t Please Everyone

The 2024 Honda Accord (Starting @ 27,295 USD & 37,000 CAD) is the 11th generation of the best selling sedan in America. It's longer, it’s sleeker, and it sip...

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2023 Honda Accord Touring Hybrid - POV Driving Review

2.0L Hybrid EngineMPG: 46 city / 41 highway / 44 combinedMSRP: From $38,985 (incl. destination)Horsepower: 204 hpTorque: 247 lb-ftBattery: 1.3 kWh lithium-io...

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AMAZING MPG! 2023 Honda Accord Review

2023 Honda Accord Hybrid Touring review by The Straight Pipes. The All New Accord Touring is putting down 204 horsepower and 247 lb-ft of torque from a 2L 4 ...

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[imjimmy]

0-60: 7.2 seconds.

Wow - that's disappointing. It doesn't seem any faster than previous gen hybrid and barely faster than the 1.5T.

 

[singular9]

This car is a cash grab by honda before they kill it. We might not even see it for more than 2-3 years.
Firstly, on the interior side, lots of carry over parts that have been around honda's parts bin.
Second, the interior is cheaper, yes, cheaper. Look at the "half cloth half leather seats". They are 90% cloth now, with a slight hint of fake leather. The entire interior design is as simple as it can get.
Thirdly, they invested all their R&D into the screens and the android automotive crap that most people won't even notice because AA and Carplay work fine and it costs a subscription lmfao.
The "refinement" was in development since the last gen went into production, it didn't cost all that much to do. Things like shock tuning, sound dampening, etc, its some of the lower parts of the budget.
The 1.5 is the least reliable honda engine made to date, everyone who wants an accord and knows this, is now upsold to a hybrid. This is a lease only engine.
The hybrid is fine. I have nothing against hybrids and am looking for a hybrid to replace my ES350, but considering there is no "higher performance" version is appalling.
Considering how huge this car is, it could have easily been an E-AWD model and/or plug in hybrid. Toyota is moving in this direction and its nice to have that rear motor for extra oomph. That or they should have genuinely redesigned their hybrid system to make more power. Its doable. The 2.4L isn't all that big, and there is easily enough room to use it in tandem with the hybrid system and still get similar MPG with more performance.
Regen braking? For what reason? Its like a 1.5kwh battery. Not a plug in hybrid, not an ev. What a waste of R&D.
The 2.0T in 2018 started around 30k, and in 2022 ended at around 34k. Considering the price increase, the 2.0t could have cost 36K and people would still buy it. This was clearly a "we don't wanna hurt acura" moment. The TLX will be dead soon I guess because no one is going to pick that over something like an IS350. The TLX is nice, but its heavy, slow, and gets worse fuel economy. The IS has both a 2.0 (that gets better MPG and is faster) and a 3.5 v6 which is miles ahead of the 2.0 TLX. The IS350 also beats it in price/value.
This car's sheet metal is so bloody simple that it reminds me of the 90's when we didn't have the metalurgy tech in the budget segment to make a cool design. Now this is called cost cutting. Just make it a freaking box like cybertruck and call it a day.
There is still zero feature parity with the competition. Sound system is actually a down grade trim for trim. No panoramic sunroof. etc etc etc. The last time an accord had feature for feature with a camry was the 9th gen, dollar for dollar, trim for trim. (Yes I know you can pay 40k for a touring 10th gen, but at that point, that is lexus territory).

The competition on the other hand has only gotten more aggressive.

Toyota currently still offers the v6 camry, and you can probably find a TRD if you want. As a Camry owner, its an easy pick over this new accord if you are looking for more "fun". Then in the next gen we may see the use of hybrid E-AWD in the camry, which is permanently make the accord obsolete. This system was tested on the rav4 prime, and is now in the NX, RX, Prius, etc. Its heading in that direction. The v6 will be dropped sure, but toyota still has the very efficient 2.5 with the traditional 8 speed auto (which has only gotten better tuned YoY) and the future 2.4 Turbo (which may or may not get put into the camry).

Hyunda has the Sonata N Line with a turbo and a DCT. Its not as hard core as the camry but the power train combined with the features, is a great choice. Yes we all know about hyunda reliability, but its not any worse than the 1.5T L15 which is known to be hit or miss unless you get the civic SI version (and even that isn't a guarantee).

Then there is the KIA K5 GT with its 2.4 turbo and DCT. It starts at just under 32k USD. This is the nail in the coffin for the accord.

We won't even talk about the fact that there is a used car market. V6 accords, 2.0 accords. Heck, Kia Stingers. Alpha Romeo Giulia's are only 25k used with nearly no miles. Etc, etc, etc. There is a lot of options here for people who want fun to drive but not "hard core" sedans.

We won't mention how the Elantra N costs 10k less than the civic type R if you really want performance.

Guess I will be keeping my 2.0 till it dies. Thinking of doing the same with the ES350, as well.

EDIT: oh...and no spare tire on the hybrids. How can everyone have one, but honda "ran out of room" in the BIGGEST FREAKING SEDAN IN THE SEGMENT!

EDIT 2: later on in the thread I compare the civic to the accord :

The civic makes this car completely obsolete. For 28 grand, which is just a few hundred bucks over the base accord, you get:

• Sunroof
• Upgraded audio
• Leather trimmed seats
• Heated seats
• Dual zone climate control
• Better MPG
• An optional hatch back configuration
• Electric front seat adjustment
• Leather steering wheel
• Floor mats

To get any of these on the accord you have to AT LEAST get the 29500 EX trim. NONE OF THESE come on the LX trim. Not only that, to get any semblance of leather, you have to get the 33500 EXL.

In other words, the civic / hatch is better value in every single way. You will get more features on the Sport Touring Civic Hatch for 31k than you will on the 33.5k+ Accords.

The only thing you really lose by going civic (as long as you stick to the 1.5t) is some fuel economy (which the 1.5 gets 35 avg which is plenty) is space, but if you look at the measurements of the civic interior and trunk, it matches a toyota camry, so I don't see how that could be an issue.

After seeing this, I can 100% guarantee the accord will be axed before the end of its "generation" (2-3 years tops). Don't see why anyone would buy the accord if most people care about FEATURES more than the fuel economy and / or space. If people care about space they will get the CRV or just go for an ES350/hybrid and get an actually luxury car for sub 40k.

 

[Samurai1225]

This car is a cash grab by honda before they kill it. We might not even see it for more than 2-3 years.
Firstly, on the interior side, lots of carry over parts that have been around honda's parts bin.
Second, the interior is cheaper, yes, cheaper. Look at the "half cloth half leather seats". They are 90% cloth now, with a slight hint of fake leather. The entire interior design is as simple as it can get.
Thirdly, they invested all their R&D into the screens and the android automotive crap that most people won't even notice because AA and Carplay work fine and it costs a subscription lmfao.
The "refinement" was in development since the last gen went into production, it didn't cost all that much to do. Things like shock tuning, sound dampening, etc, its some of the lower parts of the budget.
The 1.5 is the least reliable honda engine made to date, everyone who wants an accord and knows this, is now upsold to a hybrid. This is a lease only engine.
The hybrid is fine. I have nothing against hybrids and am looking for a hybrid to replace my ES350, but considering there is no "higher performance" version is appalling.
Considering how huge this car is, it could have easily been an E-AWD model and/or plug in hybrid. Toyota is moving in this direction and its nice to have that rear motor for extra oomph. That or they should have genuinely redesigned their hybrid system to make more power. Its doable. The 2.4L isn't all that big, and there is easily enough room to use it in tandem with the hybrid system and still get similar MPG with more performance.
Regen braking? For what reason? Its like a 1.5kwh battery. Not a plug in hybrid, not an ev. What a waste of R&D.
The 2.0T in 2018 started around 30k, and in 2022 ended at around 34k. Considering the price increase, the 2.0t could have cost 36K and people would still buy it. This was clearly a "we don't wanna hurt acura" moment. The TLX will be dead soon I guess because no one is going to pick that over something like an IS350. The TLX is nice, but its heavy, slow, and gets worse fuel economy. The IS has both a 2.0 (that gets better MPG and is faster) and a 3.5 v6 which is miles ahead of the 2.0 TLX. The IS350 also beats it in price/value.
This car's sheet metal is so bloody simple that it reminds me of the 90's when we didn't have the metalurgy tech in the budget segment to make a cool design. Now this is called cost cutting. Just make it a freaking box like cybertruck and call it a day.
There is still zero feature parity with the competition. Sound system is actually a down grade trim for trim. No panoramic sunroof. etc etc etc. The last time an accord had feature for feature with a camry was the 9th gen, dollar for dollar, trim for trim. (Yes I know you can pay 40k for a touring 10th gen, but at that point, that is lexus territory).

The competition on the other hand has only gotten more aggressive.

Toyota currently still offers the v6 camry, and you can probably find a TRD if you want. As a Camry owner, its an easy pick over this new accord if you are looking for more "fun". Then in the next gen we may see the use of hybrid E-AWD in the camry, which is permanently make the accord obsolete. This system was tested on the rav4 prime, and is now in the NX, RX, Prius, etc. Its heading in that direction. The v6 will be dropped sure, but toyota still has the very efficient 2.5 with the traditional 8 speed auto (which has only gotten better tuned YoY) and the future 2.4 Turbo (which may or may not get put into the camry).

Hyunda has the Sonata N Line with a turbo and a DCT. Its not as hard core as the camry but the power train combined with the features, is a great choice. Yes we all know about hyunda reliability, but its not any worse than the 1.5T L15 which is known to be hit or miss unless you get the civic SI version (and even that isn't a guarantee).

Then there is the KIA K5 GT with its 2.4 turbo and DCT. It starts at just under 32k USD. This is the nail in the coffin for the accord.

We won't even talk about the fact that there is a used car market. V6 accords, 2.0 accords. Heck, Kia Stingers. Alpha Romeo Giulia's are only 25k used with nearly no miles. Etc, etc, etc. There is a lot of options here for people who want fun to drive but not "hard core" sedans.

We won't mention how the Elantra N costs 10k less than the civic type R if you really want performance.

Guess I will be keeping my 2.0 till it dies. Thinking of doing the same with the ES350, as well.

EDIT: oh...and no spare tire on the hybrids. How can everyone have one, but honda "ran out of room" in the BIGGEST FREAKING SEDAN IN THE SEGMENT!

As a proud owner of a 2020 EXL 2.0T which I bought for just under 30K I would love to argue with you about your comments above, but I can't because you have hit the nail on the head. I, like you, will be keeping and driving my 2.0 Accord until the wheels fall off.

 

[Sapphir8]

No satellite radio? That's odd.

 

[Steve182023]

The Fast Lane review

 

[Steve182023]

KBB review

 

[Steve182023]

Motor1 review

 

[AccorDokken]

This car is a cash grab by honda before they kill it. We might not even see it for more than 2-3 years.
Firstly, on the interior side, lots of carry over parts that have been around honda's parts bin.
Second, the interior is cheaper, yes, cheaper. Look at the "half cloth half leather seats". They are 90% cloth now, with a slight hint of fake leather. The entire interior design is as simple as it can get.
Thirdly, they invested all their R&D into the screens and the android automotive crap that most people won't even notice because AA and Carplay work fine and it costs a subscription lmfao.
The "refinement" was in development since the last gen went into production, it didn't cost all that much to do. Things like shock tuning, sound dampening, etc, its some of the lower parts of the budget.
The 1.5 is the least reliable honda engine made to date, everyone who wants an accord and knows this, is now upsold to a hybrid. This is a lease only engine.
The hybrid is fine. I have nothing against hybrids and am looking for a hybrid to replace my ES350, but considering there is no "higher performance" version is appalling.
Considering how huge this car is, it could have easily been an E-AWD model and/or plug in hybrid. Toyota is moving in this direction and its nice to have that rear motor for extra oomph. That or they should have genuinely redesigned their hybrid system to make more power. Its doable. The 2.4L isn't all that big, and there is easily enough room to use it in tandem with the hybrid system and still get similar MPG with more performance.
Regen braking? For what reason? Its like a 1.5kwh battery. Not a plug in hybrid, not an ev. What a waste of R&D.
The 2.0T in 2018 started around 30k, and in 2022 ended at around 34k. Considering the price increase, the 2.0t could have cost 36K and people would still buy it. This was clearly a "we don't wanna hurt acura" moment. The TLX will be dead soon I guess because no one is going to pick that over something like an IS350. The TLX is nice, but its heavy, slow, and gets worse fuel economy. The IS has both a 2.0 (that gets better MPG and is faster) and a 3.5 v6 which is miles ahead of the 2.0 TLX. The IS350 also beats it in price/value.
This car's sheet metal is so bloody simple that it reminds me of the 90's when we didn't have the metalurgy tech in the budget segment to make a cool design. Now this is called cost cutting. Just make it a freaking box like cybertruck and call it a day.
There is still zero feature parity with the competition. Sound system is actually a down grade trim for trim. No panoramic sunroof. etc etc etc. The last time an accord had feature for feature with a camry was the 9th gen, dollar for dollar, trim for trim. (Yes I know you can pay 40k for a touring 10th gen, but at that point, that is lexus territory).

The competition on the other hand has only gotten more aggressive.

Toyota currently still offers the v6 camry, and you can probably find a TRD if you want. As a Camry owner, its an easy pick over this new accord if you are looking for more "fun". Then in the next gen we may see the use of hybrid E-AWD in the camry, which is permanently make the accord obsolete. This system was tested on the rav4 prime, and is now in the NX, RX, Prius, etc. Its heading in that direction. The v6 will be dropped sure, but toyota still has the very efficient 2.5 with the traditional 8 speed auto (which has only gotten better tuned YoY) and the future 2.4 Turbo (which may or may not get put into the camry).

Hyunda has the Sonata N Line with a turbo and a DCT. Its not as hard core as the camry but the power train combined with the features, is a great choice. Yes we all know about hyunda reliability, but its not any worse than the 1.5T L15 which is known to be hit or miss unless you get the civic SI version (and even that isn't a guarantee).

Then there is the KIA K5 GT with its 2.4 turbo and DCT. It starts at just under 32k USD. This is the nail in the coffin for the accord.

We won't even talk about the fact that there is a used car market. V6 accords, 2.0 accords. Heck, Kia Stingers. Alpha Romeo Giulia's are only 25k used with nearly no miles. Etc, etc, etc. There is a lot of options here for people who want fun to drive but not "hard core" sedans.

We won't mention how the Elantra N costs 10k less than the civic type R if you really want performance.

Guess I will be keeping my 2.0 till it dies. Thinking of doing the same with the ES350, as well.

EDIT: oh...and no spare tire on the hybrids. How can everyone have one, but honda "ran out of room" in the BIGGEST FREAKING SEDAN IN THE SEGMENT!

Weren't you banned? Hey @Admin since we're unbanning people, can you bring back Rick Blaine please?

 

[FattiesGoneWild]

7.2 seconds what a total dog. 🤭😆 At least compared to last gen 2.0t 10 speed.

 

[singular9]

7.2 seconds what a total dog. 🤭😆 At least compared to last gen 2.0t 10 speed.

I mean its only as fast as a base model vehicle in this class. On good tires, the 1.5T or camry 2.5 can do that.

 

[WiiMaster]

AI generated sedan is my favorite way to describe this thing. It looks exactly like if you asked ChatGPT to design an Accord.

 

[Honda2014]

7.2 seconds what a total dog. 🤭😆 At least compared to last gen 2.0t 10 speed.

Let alone the 2.0t. This is even slower than the HAH from the last gen I believe…

What happened? I’m sorry, I believe they’re holding back. I cannot believe this is it from Honda.

 

[AccorDokken]

Let alone the 2.0t. This is even slower than the HAH from the last gen I believe…

What happened? I’m sorry, I believe they’re holding back. I cannot believe this is it from Honda.

"First they took the V6, and you scoffed and said, 'The 2.0 is better'
Next they took the manual, and you laughed and said, 'No one drives those any more'
Then they came for the 2.0T, and there was wailing and gnashing of teeth;
And lo, the fun Accord is no more."
-Enthusiastes 7:2

 

[Honda2014]

"First they took the V6, and you scoffed and said, 'The 2.0 is better'
Next they took the manual, and you laughed and said, 'No one drives those any more'
Then they came for the 2.0T, and there was wailing and gnashing of teeth;
And lo, the fun Accord is no more."
-Enthusiastes 7:2

Right. To me, I love the J35 V6 too. Had that engine on two cars (or two versions of it). Great engine, smooth power delivery, lovely engine note, but I did also understand why it got axed in favor of the 2.0t (better mpg, straight line acceleration etc) and have finally embraced it…. At least they had something to back it up when they decided to stop the V6. Now what? It seems like none exists in their Honda line currently… which is hard to believe.

I’m an optimist though, I’ll wait until MMC to see what else they have in store for us. They cannot let go of the Accord like this. This is sad.

 

[FattiesGoneWild]

One can dream yes? Imagine having the newer V6 10 speed that is in the Pilot now in the Accord?!?! I feel like they could have went this route but Honda told the engineers NO!

 

[DrKF]

One can dream yes? Imagine having the newer V6 10 speed that is in the Pilot now in the Accord?!?! I feel like they could have went this route but Honda told the engineers NO!

¡Cálmate Hombrito!

 

[imjimmy]

Pretty scathing review from MotorTrend. Very critical of the hybrid powertrains:

2023 Honda Accord First Drive: Fine, If You Like This Kind of Thing

The new Honda Accord sedan gets some surprising things wrong.

www.motortrend.com

 

[Steve182023]

2023 Honda Accord Hybrid First Drive Review: Sleek Sedan With Google Smarts

The top-spec hybrid models are the best way to experience the 11th-gen Honda Accord and they're the only way to play with its new Google Built-In infotainment.

www.cnet.com

 

[Steve182023]

Looking forward to 1.5T reviews